ECSF: Toronto Maple Leafs (A2) vs. Florida Panthers (WC2) ( Florida Leads 3-1 )

[Number8]

Punching a player in the face repeatedly after the game is over who is down on the ice, that has like 2 guys on top of him is clean ? lol what ?

Dirty, greasy, sending messages? Maybe a gratuitous 10 min misconduct for a few players? Yes, absolutely. Just like several players on both teams.

But DOPS worthy? Come on man. That’s ridiculous.

 

[AvroArrow]

Dirty, greasy, sending messages? Maybe a gratuitous 10 min misconduct for a few players? Yes, absolutely. Just like several players on both teams.

But DOPS worthy? Come on man. That’s ridiculous.

Yes, punching a guy with your gloves still on. A guy who's down on the ice, repeatedly in the face, after the game is already over. If that's not intent to injure I don't know what it is. The hockey game is over, Florida is literally just trying to injure guys for game 5. If you're gonna pretend to fight, drop the gloves and fight face to face, that's absolutely dirty.

 

[leafsfan5]

2 goals in 6 straight games is just unacceptable at this point.

It's genuinely crazy, I don't remember the last time they were this anemic offensively for so long. If the offense does get going I can see this going 7, otherwise it's too tall a task

 

[LeafAttack]

I didn’t see it as getting under their skin as much as the Leafs played their best defensive hockey of the series in the last 6-7 minutes of the game. Quite unusual for the Leafs because they haven’t looked like that all series, including earlier in this game.

The Leafs defense was what I thought got under Fla,s skin,and got them frustrated.First time seeing them lose it like that.

Yes, punching a guy with your gloves still on. A guy who's down on the ice, repeatedly in the face, after the game is already over. If that's not intent to injure I don't know what it is. The hockey game is over, Florida is literally just trying to injure guys for game 5. If you're gonna pretend to fight, drop the gloves and fight face to face, that's absolutely dirty.

We gotta capitalize on our defense getting to them,and making them mad,and getting under their skin ,which will help us.

 

[authentic]

It's genuinely crazy, I don't remember the last time they were this anemic offensively for so long. If the offense does get going I can see this going 7, otherwise it's too tall a task

If I was betting I say we get more than 2 in game 5, but then again it's Toronto so I actually wouldn't bet on it.

 

[Strangle]

Yes ? Lol have you seen him try and hit or get into a scrum with Schenn or McCabe face to face ? Not even once, he tucks his tail between his legs and hides on the bench.

If he has an opportunity to hit someone from behind or in the head, or while they're already down, or with his gloves still on he acts tough

You think Bennet can do a single pull-up yet?

 

[Golden_Jet]

If I was betting I say we get more than 2 in game 5, but then again it's Toronto so I actually wouldn't bet on it.

After penalties at end of game
Leafs have taken 13 penalties
Florida 18
If remove scrum penalties at end of game 4

Leafs 11 PP
Florida 7

 

[dukedukowski]

About Anthony Davis

 

[Strangle]

Leafs live to see another day. I voted on this thread FLA in 5.

Only 4 teams in NHL history have ever come back from a 0-3 deficit. Leafs are nowhere near the type of character/grit team to pull that feat off.

True. But coming back from 3-1 down happens a lot more often.

This series isn’t 3-0

 

[Summer Rose]

True. But coming back from 3-1 down happens a lot more often.

This series isn’t 3-0

According to the statistics posted earlier, the Leafs have roughly a 28.5% chance (or so) of winning game 5.

 

[OKR]

Now if you watched the game tell me what those high danger chances were

My literal point was that there weren’t any really high danger chances for either side. The fact Leafs fan saw that Panthers didn’t and entirely neutral saw that neither really did, and them having nearly identical stats is further proof of that…

He didn't watch the game. He saw 0 high danger scoring chances for either team, the statskeeper saw 5..despite him arguing the stats matching what he saw somehow.

I did watch the game lmao, why are you being so sensitive? You just don’t understand the stats you’re reading, let me simplify it for you.

SOG=below average
xGF=below average
HDCF= below average

If you have less shots on goal than average, less expected goals for than average and less high danger chances than average that literally can only mean neither team really created chanches.

The stats literally agree with what i’m saying, you just don’t understand them.

 

[CanadianHockey]

I honestly don't see how anyone can say Florida is done when they lost by one and are still up 3-1 in the series. Even if Bob isn't out of his mind good every night, just takes one bad game by the Leafs backup goaltender to lose them the playoffs.

 

[Golden_Jet]

About Anthony Davis

Thought they might need a stretcher for Bunting last night.

 

[Ratsreign]

You think Bennet can do a single pull-up yet?

Idk, but it seems he’s been working on his wrestling moves, though. Right?

 

[authentic]

After penalties at end of game
Leafs have taken 13 penalties
Florida 18
If remove scrum penalties at end of game 4

Leafs 11 PP
Florida 7

I'm talking about goals not powerplays.

 

[AvroArrow]

You think Bennet can do a single pull-up yet?

no chance. He's one of those guys a lot of fans confuse. Being dirty doesn't make you tough. Tkachuk and Montour are tough guys, Bennett is a coward.

 

[Dotter]

True. But coming back from 3-1 down happens a lot more often.

This series isn’t 3-0

Is that how y'all are spinning it? They have to win every game left in the series. Basically Leafs MUST sweep Panthers in the remainder games. They got one down but statistically this team they're icing will never win 4 in a row.

But if you feel warm and cozy with their chances then cool. You're going to be disappointed. Get your fork ready, these leafs are DONE.

 

[Strangle]

Still makes genuinely no sense how this isn’t a penalty?





He takes 4 strides and rams him into the boards, so that’s charging or boarding right there.

Also, the Leafs are on a delayed penalty so as soon as they get possession of the puck the whistle will be blown. No one is going to be eligible to be hit in those circumstances. So of course, Gudas waits until the referee blows the whistles and charges/boards a guy ineligible to be hit without penalty.

The play is dead as soon as he touches the puck, if the leafs scored there, it wouldn’t have counted.

That hit is disgustingly late, and absolutely suspendible.

 

[authentic]

Is that how y'all are spinning it? They have to win every game left in the series. Basically Leafs MUST sweep Panthers in the remainder games. They got one down but statistically this team they're icing will never win 4 in a row.

But if you feel warm and cozy with their chances then cool. You're going to be disappointed. Get your fork ready, these leafs are DONE.

Where's the spin? Last game is over with, the series is 3-1. Florida just came back from 3-1 against Boston.

 

[NastyKnies]

Pretty similar to Gudas hit.

 

[mighty Stanley Duck]

When predicting this series i was against Florida mostly because of Bob...so if Leafs wanna advance i also think it depends on him. If he starts to suck, they have a chance.

 

[Strangle]

According to the statistics posted earlier, the Leafs have roughly a 28.5% chance (or so) of winning game 5.

I saw those too, they’re interesting to see.

But the first thing I thought of was that the Leafs are heavy favorites to win the series. The panthers are an 8th seed.

There are too many variables to use those odds in a predictive way. Toronto is a much better team than Florida, so I’d think that the odds of the leafs winning game 5 are actually much much higher than 28%.

Statistics can record what’s happened, but they can’t tell you what will happen

 

[Summer Rose]

I saw those too, they’re interesting to see.

But the first thing I thought of was that the Leafs are heavy favorites to win the series. The panthers are an 8th seed.

There are too many variables to use those odds in a predictive way. Toronto is a much better team than Florida, so I’d think that the odds of the leafs winning game 5 are actually much much higher than 28%.

Statistics can record what’s happened, but they can’t tell you what will happen

Good food for thought.

 

[Strangle]

Is that how y'all are spinning it? They have to win every game left in the series. Basically Leafs MUST sweep Panthers in the remainder games. They got one down but statistically this team they're icing will never win 4 in a row.

But if you feel warm and cozy with their chances then cool. You're going to be disappointed. Get your fork ready, these leafs are DONE.

I’d much rather be up in the series. But the panthers came back from 3-1, the leafs lost a series recently up 3-1, the leafs have lost MANY series up 3-2 as well.

Of course, it’s an uphill climb

Good food for thought.

Just to be clear …. I think it’s much more likely the panthers win this series. I’m just hoping for a miracle

 

[Divine]

According to the statistics posted earlier, the Leafs have roughly a 28.5% chance (or so) of winning game 5.

I think you read the statistics wrong.

The Leafs are the favourites to win Game 5, there's no way the favourites would have a 28.5% chance. I'm not sure what statistics you're looking at, but there's no way it's 28.5% for only Game 5, maybe for the series.