Kings News: Dwight King re-signs [3 years/$1.95M AAV]
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I saw your tweet but you are not factoring in the rise in the Cap for next season.
Per Jon Rosen-
According to financial information provided by CapGeek.com, the Kings now have 24 players signed for a total of $69.44 million. By the start of the season, they will need to have 23 players on the big club whose average annual values do not breach $69 million. Keep in mind Andy Andreoff, who carries a $550,000 cap hit and is not amongst the 24 players referenced, has a good shot at making the team.
Uhhh...what?
According to financial information provided by CapGeek.com, the Kings now have 24 players signed for a total of $69.44 million. By the start of the season, they will need to have 23 players on the big club whose average annual values do not breach $69 million. Keep in mind Andy Andreoff, who carries a $550,000 cap hit and is not amongst the 24 players referenced, has a good shot at making the team.
Uhhh...what?
KingCanadain1976
Registered User
Not once did i say hes worth the money he would get. I only seen what he was making what he did and who would be compareable as a king Lewis makes 1.5 million and didn't produce anything. King had 30 points playing up and down the lineup. There was no way that i could see that he would settle for less then lewis
I suck at this, but it looks scary to me
Player 2015-16
Forwards*(14)
Kopitar, Anze » $6,800,000
Brown, Dustin » $5,875,000
Richards, Mike » $5,750,000
Carter, Jeff » $5,272,727
Gaborik, Marian » $4,875,000
Williams, Justin » UFA
Stoll, Jarret » UFA
King, Dwight » $1,950,000
Lewis, Trevor » $1,525,000
Clifford, Kyle » RFA
Pearson, Tanner » RFA
Toffoli, Tyler » RFA
Nolan, Jordan » RFA
Cracknell, Adam » UFA
Defensemen*(7)
Doughty, Drew » $7,000,000
Voynov, Slava » $4,166,667
Regehr, Robyn » UFA
Greene, Matt » $2,500,000
Martinez, Alec » UFA
Muzzin, Jake » RFA
Schultz, Jeff » $850,000
Goaltenders*(2)
Quick, Jonathan » $5,800,000
Jones, Martin » RFA
Cap Space $16,635,606
Stoll and Williams would have to take paycuts and Martinez and/or Muzzin would have to take pretty hometown discount deals for this to work. I am guessing Regehr walks
If we guess that cap goes to 73 mil? (safe guess?) That gives us another 4 mil to play with.
$20,635,606
Stoll 3 mil
Williams 3 mil
Toffoli 2.5
Pearson 2
Martinez 3
Muzzin 4
Jones 2
That would give the Kings about 1,135,606 of cap space. I think these are pretty conservative estimates too. Bordering on too conservative.
Capgeek is counting in Cracknell and Schultz as NHLers. it is also showing cap payroll of 68,791,894 not 69.44 mil (at least from what I am seeing)
Also it is only showing 23 players. Rosen must be adding in someone else....but who? It would have to be McNabb
Bandit
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Here are King's goals from last year. By my count 7 of them were scored playing on the "top" line (including his hat trick night), not 12 or 13.
Dwight King (1) (Shorthanded)
Unassisted
Dwight King (2)
Assist: Anze Kopitar
Dwight King (3)
Assists: Robyn Regehr, Justin Williams
Dwight King (4)
Assist: Anze Kopitar
Dwight King (5)
Assists: Tyler Toffoli, Mike Richards
Dwight King (6)
Assists: Jake Muzzin, Justin Williams
Dwight King (7) (Shorthanded)
Assist: Linden Vey
Dwight King (8)
Assists: Jeff Carter, Jake Muzzin
Dwight King (9)
Assists: Drew Doughty, Jeff Carter
Dwight King (10)
Assists: Jeff Carter, Robyn Regehr
Dwight King (11)
Assist: Trevor Lewis
Dwight King (12)
Assists: Dustin Brown, Jake Muzzin
Dwight King (13)
Assist: Slava Voynov
Dwight King (14)
Assists: Dustin Brown, Willie Mitchell
Dwight King (15)
Assist: Jake Muzzin
Besides, do those goals not count or something?
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KingCanadain1976
Registered User
he did enclude assist to carter in it I think it shows that half of his goals were scored in the bottom 6
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KingCanadain1976
Registered User
7 were scored while he was in the top six
one shorthanded *( so not in top 6 ) makes 7 left for bottom 6
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5 were scored while he was in the top six
Goals 11-15 are the goals I see King having scored from the bottom 6.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
How much did the Flames sign Engelland for? Can anyone be upset about a contract for King at under $2MM AAV for three years?
The guy is an extremely boring hockey player. At the same time, he's better than Lewis or Clifford and deserves more than them for sure.
He doesn't make many mistakes, can skate well for a big man, can shuttle up to the Top 6 if needed and has the complete confidence of the coaching staff.
I wish he was mean and would use his size to punish people but I feel he's a very good 3LW option. Good signing.
The guy is an extremely boring hockey player. At the same time, he's better than Lewis or Clifford and deserves more than them for sure.
He doesn't make many mistakes, can skate well for a big man, can shuttle up to the Top 6 if needed and has the complete confidence of the coaching staff.
I wish he was mean and would use his size to punish people but I feel he's a very good 3LW option. Good signing.
rajuabju
The One & Only
Almost 100% that Schultz and Cracknell will start the season in Manchester. This year isnt the issue. Next year... big issue, even if you assume cap goes to $73M.
Regehr wont be back, but by then I'm confident DL has a replacement ready.
There's no way Stool, JDub, Muzz, A-Mart all take discounts to stay here. Especially not Muzzin or Martinez who are going to look to cash in. Stoll and JDub might, if they get longer terms with more cash up front, and make them cap friendly deals.
Regehr wont be back, but by then I'm confident DL has a replacement ready.
There's no way Stool, JDub, Muzz, A-Mart all take discounts to stay here. Especially not Muzzin or Martinez who are going to look to cash in. Stoll and JDub might, if they get longer terms with more cash up front, and make them cap friendly deals.
Holden Caulfield
Eternal Skeptic
That's on the low end of where it will end up. Remember that HUGE new Canadian TV deal kicks in next year. I'd say 74-76 is the likely range for next year.
Ziggy Stardust
Master Debater
Without the cap going up, the Kings will have over $17M in cap space to re-sign Williams, Stoll, Martinez, Muzzin, Toffoli, Pearson, Nolan.
With the new national Canadian TV deal and other revenue streams, it's very likely to see the cap go up to $74M next season, which would give the Kings an additional $5M in cap space to retain the aforementioned players. So roughly $22M+ in cap room may be available next summer.
With the new national Canadian TV deal and other revenue streams, it's very likely to see the cap go up to $74M next season, which would give the Kings an additional $5M in cap space to retain the aforementioned players. So roughly $22M+ in cap room may be available next summer.
Remember that the cap came in lower this year than expected.
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Choralone
Registered User
No goals in the NHL are "gimmies." He scored what he scored. You could flip it around and argue it's amazing he scored any goals when Trevor Lewis was out on the ice.
tsanuri
Registered User
Was just going to say this. They used half of it or 100M this year it sounds like. So if we go at the 7% growth and then add the other 100M on we are at a cap of around 76M with 140M in benefits.
tsanuri
Registered User
That is because the PA didn't listen to Fehr,the guy, they hired to be the head. They only took half the money from the new TV deal and they could have added it all. And they also didn't use the 5% escalator. They were worried about escrow. And Fehr told them to get as much money into the system as they could.
Holden Caulfield
Eternal Skeptic
Combination of factors played into that. The new tv contract should have fully come into play this year but players and teams agreed to delay it. Players for some reason did not decide to use their full escalator. Which is why it was lower.
This is my general hope as well. If it doesn't go up that much then a lot of teams are going to be scrambling for some money.
scryan
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Those before you were guessing pretty low, I wish one of them were right, lol.
I was guessing 1.75. Then I second guessed myself and thought that may be low... Was a little afraid things were going to get crazy and we would hear something in the middle high 2's
I figure I was good anywhere under 2, but also just finished watching the 2012 cup video. I was fairly ready to loose the guy and be OK with it tbh. I'm fairly apathetic about the guy, but at least he generally does not make me worry.
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