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You saying you don't gamble, you can't afford it and your personal beliefs about gambling is an anology to a salary cap?vanlady said:So was mine, how about some owners pay attention.
You saying you don't gamble, you can't afford it and your personal beliefs about gambling is an anology to a salary cap?vanlady said:So was mine, how about some owners pay attention.
... and a 10 million dollar difference is far better then a 20 million.vanlady said:A 20 million dollar difference is a far better position they are in now. Condense 30 payrolls into a 20 million dollar difference and small market teams will have a better chance.
vanlady said:Actually I don't like casinos. I don't spend what I can't afford and I never gamble on something that I can't predict the outcome.
Splatman Phanutier said:if an owner doesn't know how to set up a budget WITH a salary cap, thats worse than not setting a budget WITHOUT one.
How do you figure?
If theyre so stupid that they cant realise they can only spend 30 million and not 42 or 45 or whatever number would be agreed upon then its their OWN fault.
Umm... wasn't that the last CBA? And wasn't it the point of this CBA - for BOTH the players and owners - to fix that problem?
If you don't recognize that, then you sorely don't understand the objective of fixing the CBA, for BOTH sides proposals.
Why dont we rename the the NHL the Harrison Bergeron League and find out who the WORST profitible NHL team is and see what salary cap they need to be successful, and then we can handicap all 29 other NHL teams to fit the mold of the worst team. And then well put extra weights on St. Louis skates so he cant skate faster than Darren Rumble and we'll put a hole in Adam Oates's stick so he's not as good as passing as other NHL players.
Huh? Hos is this related to anything?
Very odd post.
Splatman Phanutier said:You saying you don't gamble, you can't afford it and your personal beliefs about gambling is an anology to a salary cap?
kenabnrmal said:Sure, but the buffets can be to die for.
Did it never occur to you that teams have to spend what other teams set the bar at?vanlady said:No the analogy is don't spend what you can't afford.
PeterSidorkiewicz said:I honestly dont care about the other leagues, if an owner doesn't know how to set up a budget WITH a salary cap, thats worse than not setting a budget WITHOUT one. If theyre so stupid that they cant realise they can only spend 30 million and not 42 or 45 or whatever number would be agreed upon then its their OWN fault. Why dont we rename the the NHL the Harrison Bergeron League and find out who the WORST profitible NHL team is and see what salary cap they need to be successful, and then we can handicap all 29 other NHL teams to fit the mold of the worst team. And then well put extra weights on St. Louis skates so he cant skate faster than Darren Rumble and we'll put a hole in Adam Oates's stick so he's not as good as passing as other NHL players. We can also put an eyepatch on one of Brodeur's eyes to limit his puck seeing ability so hes not as good. Then EVERYTHING can be equal! PARITY FOR ALL!!!
Splatman Phanutier said:Did it never occur to you that teams have to spend what other teams set the bar at?
Huh?vanlady said:OK so instead of developing strong business and marketing stratagies before you build your team and having a 5 year business plan, is not good business in the NHL, cause that is how Vancouver became successful. What 6 years ago after we dumped Messiers salary we were in the bottom 10 of payroll. Look at where we are now, why? because our owner sat down with our management and devised a plan before he went stupid on payroll.
espn actually investigated and came to the conclusion baseball has just as much, if not more parity than the nfl. My favorite part of Maclean's rant was when he said he had a 4th line winger make more money than his owner.SerbianEagle said:What a stupid thing to say? Break away and do what? Play for a Stanley cup? I don't think so.
Look at Baseball and see a league that doesn't work. Look at NFL and see a league that does work. Man oh man where have all these "experts" come out of. If NHL looses hockey markets in order to allow teams like Dallas, Detroit, Aves,Flyers... to buy cups then that league is dead. A league that has a mix of small, medium and large market teams who are all competitive is a league that is alive and well.
What do you wanna watch? MLB NHL or NFL NHL.
Splatman Phanutier said:Huh?
This post made absolutely no sense.
Rephrase more coherantly, please.
Do you think the Calgary Flames go stupid on payroll?vanlady said:OK very slowly should teams develop a sound marketing and business plan, before they go stupid on payroll. Or should they just keep up with the jones and pray they make money
vanlady said:No the analogy is don't spend what you can't afford. Heck even rookie hedge fund managers know how to balance risk you would think a bunch of billionaires would have figured it out
Splatman Phanutier said:Do you think the Calgary Flames go stupid on payroll?
Do you think the Edmonton Oilers go stupid on payroll?
Do you think the Ottawa Senators go stupid on payroll? (Besides Daigle's)
Do you think the Nashville Predators go stupid on payroll?
There you go: 4 teams that would find $2.5 million difference in cap - even if they don't spend it - to be a big deal between compeitiveness, and in some cases, life or death for the organization.
Cully9 said:Unlike hedge fund managers, however, general managers have a goal that isn't always congruous with being profitable -- it's called winning. The billionaires have figured it out and are setting out to solve the problem. Now if only they were allowed...
Example...???vanlady said:That is why the well run clubs NEVER leave the money in the GM's hands.
vanlady said:That is why the well run clubs NEVER leave the money in the GM's hands.
Splatman Phanutier said:Calgary has what the highest corporate headquarters in western Canada and they can't get decent sponsorship deals, give your head a shake.
Excuse me? Do you even understand the situation?
Please, if you do, why not tell me. This should be a good laugh.
Nashville shouldn't be where it is, you would think that when Bettman gave out franchises he could have at least balanced non traditional markets with traditional markets.
You catch this, nomorekids?
Ottawa is still suffering the Briden hangover but should in a couple of years be fine and Edmonton, well they still haven't recovered from the Peter Puck stupidity, not to mention they need a new building.
Please tell me your astute evaluation of Calgary and the Flames organization isn't anything like this one.
Seriously, if you do, then please, give me full run down on why the Calgary Flames arn't successful.vanlady said:Oh I think I understand the business side far better than you do.
Splatman Phanutier said:Nashville shouldn't be where it is, you would think that when Bettman gave out franchises he could have at least balanced non traditional markets with traditional markets.
You catch this, nomorekids?
Well thanks bud, you could have given me a heads up herenomorekids said:Give me some credit, dude. I stopped paying attention to Vanlady's NHLPA ra-ra'ing a loooong time ago. Given some of the other things I've heard from this person, the opinion doesn't carry much weight with me.