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rocketdan9
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Moves like this get you fired
Also look at our record/depth. Uninspiring hockey at best
BruinsFanSince94
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Oh, brother.....
Our record and depth are due to injuries. Why do so many people on this site fail to realize this?
Given that we have DeBrusk playing regular minutes from that draft while not producing like Barzal right now (Connor is less impressive when you look at his 20 games last season- 4 pts) I don't see how this is fireable. Jury is out on Seny and Zboril. Expecting every 1st rounder to step right in and produce at a top level is not realistic- we have to be 2-3 years away from really evaluating this draft class. Barzal has started well, but how do we know he doesn't hit a wall or regress in 2 months? Should every GM that passed on the 5th rounder Bjork or the 4th rounder Heinen be fired ? Because pretty much every team could have had either guy.
Bergyesque
Been there, done that.
Regarding the bold, I'm not convinced one can realistically work like that as a GM. I mean, a GM can't predict his team will play for the cup in a definite year.
One has to be more flexible and adapt his plan along the way. Such a plan is like a living thing, it needs to evolve with time, but not deviate too much from the original. It's a fine line.
Still think Sweeney will have to package some assets to get a big time player, a missing piece, or whatever you call it, and not necessarily at the time the plan requires it, but rather at the time the situation arises. When both times coincide, you've got the perfect storm, but that's pretty rare.
DKH
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Connor plays with Scheifele and Wheeler and averages 18:04 per game (2:41 per on the PP).
DeBrusk plays with two ANH/NHL tweeners right now and averages 14:58 and 2:00 PP time per game (although it appears that he is getting less of both now).
Basically, Connor is eating Filet Mignon and DeBrusk is having Hamburger Helper.
WPG is doing the same thing with Connor that the B's wanted to do with Bjork and/or DeBrusk before all the injuries hit (put him with good top line players). I would like to see how he would do on a 3rd line with Backes and Heinen. Think his production (and Heinen's) would be good in that spot.
DKH
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Barzal could have been part get 3 GM's who would have been fired by our fine member here for incompetence
1. The Islanders GM took Michael Dal Colle in 2014 5th overall (2017 13 games 1 G 4 A in the AHL) and Ryan Strom also 5th overall and a marginal player
clearly that GM with 2 top 5 misses should have been fired
2. Chiarelli Edmonton
trades 16 and 33 in 2015 for Griffin Reinhart (also selected 4th by NYI in 2012)
Chiarelli could have had Connor or Barzal and Brandon Carlo but he traded both for Reinhart who is now on Vegas AHL team on the road to bust
3. Don Sweeney- taking DeBrusk and Senyshyn over Barzal and Connor.
DeBrusk looks legit and has a bright future but the 20 year old Senyshyn is still in the AHL albeit playing very well of late.
Rocketdan know doubt would have fired all 3 from the sounds of it
lets hope when he enters the business world he is not a federal judge
BigGoalBrad
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Bruins fans would be bragging about Sweeney and how good he is at drafting and easily overlooking the mediocre NHL level scouting/trades/signings if he didn't think he was the smartest guy in the room during the 2015 1st round. We'd be as proud of him as Celtics fans are of Ainge. If he just took Barzal and Connor he'd have the kind of job security Sinden had in the 80s/90s.
DeBrusk is solid and Senny should be a good bottom 6 player with speed/size which we lack. Carlo pick means its OK if Zboril doesn't make it. But its still a huge miss.
We'd have a 3rd/4th line of Bjork-Barzal-Heinen when fully healthy. When you consider that we have Marchand and Pasternak on the team if we don't mess the 2015 first round up wed have more high end talent than Toronto.
DeBrusk is solid and Senny should be a good bottom 6 player with speed/size which we lack. Carlo pick means its OK if Zboril doesn't make it. But its still a huge miss.
We'd have a 3rd/4th line of Bjork-Barzal-Heinen when fully healthy. When you consider that we have Marchand and Pasternak on the team if we don't mess the 2015 first round up wed have more high end talent than Toronto.
What The Puck
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No point in doing a rebuild, either, because Sweeney likes to pick reaches over folks like Debrincat, Barzal, Konecny, and Connor. We'll end up with another team full of grinders.
I wish we had some new players that could actually snipe top shelf. If we don't get dirty goals, we don't get goals.
Alan Ryan
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He has an off-season home in Charleston, South Carolina. There is a video in the Bear Tracks section of the Bruins website.
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FIRE DON SWEENEY INTO THE SUN
Just looked up his stats. It's early obviously, but his advanced numbers are phenomenal.
Oof.
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BigGoalBrad
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Yeah.
The guy who said 'Im smarter than everyone else and won't use one of my 3 THREE mid first round picks on the BPA top 5 talent who slipped to 14' probably isn't the guy we want for our rebuild.
But we had Spooner no use for him he'd be stuck in Providence.
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DKH
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Moves like Charlie McAvoy get you extensions
Rocket Dan- you need balance kid you been following this team this long and you are thinking they have no depth which is exactly what they are getting by on
Also to get out of the first quarter with 20 or more points is a win win
When the water is choppy and you can tread water and not drown that's survival
DKH
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He is
And good for Garth Snow for getting him at 17 after seeing Reinhart 4, Strome 5 (already traded) and Dal Colle 5 (having problems in AHL) look like bad picks
I go to yoga now my teachers preach balance
I took judo all those years my sensei preaxhes balsnce
My mother from day one preaches balance
I join HF and all I hear about is the negative shit
Here's balance
McAvoy 19 years old and Carlo 20 playing big minutes in a huge road win
McAvoy with a beautiful goal as well and Carlo showing excellent offensive traits on his assist last night on Acciari goal
Kids doing it at both ends
This Barzal Connor stuff is pathetic
Who knows what Senyshyn will be but he's coming off a very good weekend and won't be 21 till next summer
And just for the record my pick as you know Lou was Barzal at 13 and I was livid they passed 3 times on him
But to balance that
My choice was Fabro at 14 not McAvoy
Let's stop with this fire everyone who screws up a draft pick because I saw Red Auerbach once pass on Tony Parker for a stiff who even I knew was horribly wrong
Auerbach should not have been fired for taking Michael Smith or the kid from NC over Parker anymore than Sweeney for passing on Connor or Barzal for Senyshyn
He's made shitty moves and great moves that's the nature of unscientific outcomes
And I think it's more likely Senyshyn is good
Last year at this time Heinen looked like he was homesick now he's on both special teams and third forward in TOI in a game the coach had to have
Colt.45Orr
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And I was told I was being "melodramatic" here when I lost my **** at the draft and said we would badly regret it (passing on Barzal) for the next decade +.....
but, yeah, now people all over the hockey world are looking up his advanced stats to back up what the eyeball test should have told the Bruins scouts on their FIRST viewing of him. It blew my mind how I could go to a game with someone and they were not enamoured with him, even though he had crap support in Seattle.
Funny, this time last year people were telling me how Barzal wasn't going to make any noise in the NHL because he "couldn't shoot" and, here, how much further ahead DeBrusk was because he was playing pro hockey.
The Isles have had their share of whiffs and we have had homeruns too (McAvoy, Carlo) but the reason the Barzal thing will haunt the Bruins is because they had the unique 3 picks in a row thing and that has never happened before. If they just had the 1 pick then people wouldn't hang it on them so much.
It could have been an amazing fleecing for Sweeney..... getting Barzal for Lucic is pure plunder but it wasn't to be.
but, yeah, now people all over the hockey world are looking up his advanced stats to back up what the eyeball test should have told the Bruins scouts on their FIRST viewing of him. It blew my mind how I could go to a game with someone and they were not enamoured with him, even though he had crap support in Seattle.
Funny, this time last year people were telling me how Barzal wasn't going to make any noise in the NHL because he "couldn't shoot" and, here, how much further ahead DeBrusk was because he was playing pro hockey.
The Isles have had their share of whiffs and we have had homeruns too (McAvoy, Carlo) but the reason the Barzal thing will haunt the Bruins is because they had the unique 3 picks in a row thing and that has never happened before. If they just had the 1 pick then people wouldn't hang it on them so much.
It could have been an amazing fleecing for Sweeney..... getting Barzal for Lucic is pure plunder but it wasn't to be.
Colt.45Orr
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He looks amazing. So shifty and Bergeron/Krejci level smart. Absolute steal of a pick and the brass deserves a ton of credit for it.
LouJersey
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Amen. I'm certainly not unhappy with our picks. Like I said earlier somewhere I think they had a group of centers they liked round two and we were putrid as far as young wingers go. I think JDB and especially Senyshyn are going to be very good here.
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