Do you hate players or fans more in rivalries?

[Aceonfire*]

Fans AINEC.

There are a few teams in the league that I would actually like if it wasn't for their fan bases.

Rivalries are always made worse because of the fans. Invading barns, trash talk etc..

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

Now it's fans easily. Back before the Internet and message boards, however, players and teams.

Good call. Growing up in the 90s the love/hate was all about the players. Hell I even liked the Ducks because I was a huge fan of Kariya, pre-SJ Selanne, and a lot of their other players (the Stars on the other hand...), but with so many new ways to interact with other fans they've taken over in the hatred department, although L.A., Anaheim, and Dallas still have plenty of d bags on their respective teams.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Easily the fans. Several teams namely LA, Ottawa, and Winnipeg have the most obnoxious fans.

As for the rivals:

Penguins: Their fans aren't that bad actually. Most of them are knowledgeable and reasonable. But of course there are a few bad eggs. However, I really dislike the team.

Rangers: Same as Penguins.

 

[Al Lagoon]

Excellent thread to the OP - When I am on HF Boards, it is DEFINITELY fans.

When I'm not, it could be players, but it is usually the whole package, fans, goalhorns, PA announcer, players.

For Minnesota, it was players when Bertuzzi was a Canuck(not a rivalry to them), and Secord was a Hawk. That is much more rare IMHO, but runs much deeper.

 

[TopShelfYzerman]

Before coming to Hfboards, more of dislike for a team was due to players.

After Hfboards, mostly due to fanbase.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

For the most part it is fans. There are exceptions but generally the players do not cross the line generally. Not nearly as much as fans do.

 

[penguins2946*]

Easily the fans. Several teams namely LA, Ottawa, and Winnipeg have the most obnoxious fans.

As for the rivals:

Penguins: Their fans aren't that bad actually. Most of them are knowledgeable and reasonable. But of course there are a few bad eggs. However, I really dislike the team.

Rangers: Same as Penguins.

I've noticed that as well. I don't know if it's just HF, but a lot of Kings fans on HF just seem extremely arrogant and condescending. I haven't met any big Kings fans IRL, the only ones I've met are just bandwagon Kings fans.

 

[Al Lagoon]

Folks,

*climbs up on pulpit*

Let this be a lesson to us all on the hazards of jingoism, bigotry, fanatacism. extremism, nationalism, xenophopbia, and all other forms of irrational hatred.

Sports teach us to behave that way.

*steps down from pulpit*

 

[bobbyt911]

I've noticed that as well. I don't know if it's just HF, but a lot of Kings fans on HF just seem extremely arrogant and condescending. I haven't met any big Kings fans IRL, the only ones I've met are just bandwagon Kings fans.

agree its annoying to see a new Kings fan act all high and mighty, but the ones that were there during the bad yrs have every right to be

 

[NewLife]

If all the fans were baked, I think we'd all get along much better, actually.

Not if very weird and a mind in the same direction.

So just a bit better.

 

[Captain Bowie]

Depends.

Boston - both
Toronto - fans (and Homophobic Sluroof)
Calgary - fans
Chicago - players
LA - players

 

[Aceonfire*]

I've noticed that as well. I don't know if it's just HF, but a lot of Kings fans on HF just seem extremely arrogant and condescending. I haven't met any big Kings fans IRL, the only ones I've met are just bandwagon Kings fans.

They don't exist IRL. All of the Kings posters on HF are PR staffers for L.A.

I obviously kid.

But when you look at it from the LA fans POV, they are always going to be called bandwagoners etc..

I don't blame them for being a little bitter lol.

 

[penguins2946*]

They don't exist IRL. All of the Kings posters on HF are PR staffers for L.A.

I obviously kid.

But when you look at it from the LA fans POV, they are always going to be called bandwagoners etc..

I don't blame them for being a little bitter lol.

Pens fans have been called bandwagoners a ton over the years, I don't see any bitterness with them here. Mainly pity on HF. Then again, it could have been different in 2008 and 2009.

 

[Aceonfire*]

]Pens fans have been called bandwagoners a ton over the years,[/B] I don't see any bitterness with them here. Mainly pity on HF. Then again, it could have been different in 2008 and 2009.

It usually gets brought up when discussing whether or not the Crosby draft was rigged.

Chicago fans still get it also.

 

[Kane One]

Isles and Devils - fans
Penguins - fans and players

 

[Saintpatrick*]

Fans hands down

 

[SJSharksfan39]

Probably fans.

For example, I'm a sharks fan, but I don't hate the ducks. I like watching players like Getzlaf and Perry play, yet there is this fan rule that I'm supposed to hate the whole team and say so or so player is a punk or whatever. For me, a rivalry is determined by how entertaining a game is. Sharks/Ducks games are always entertaining and that makes for a strong rivalry. I don't like being told who I can or can't "like"

 

[Saintpatrick*]

I've noticed that as well. I don't know if it's just HF, but a lot of Kings fans on HF just seem extremely arrogant and condescending. I haven't met any big Kings fans IRL, the only ones I've met are just bandwagon Kings fans.

I agree. Never had any real hate towards the kings till I interacted with their "fans" on HF. Now I actively root against the Kings

 

[Raspewtin]

Depends.

Islanders - compeletely loathe both their fans and their team. Especially now that they had a great start.

Devils - used to be dead even between the two. But the Devils as a team dont aggravate me nearly as much as they used to.

Penguins - hate the team way more.

 

[Islanderfan17]

I can't think of many Rangers players I dislike. MSL is the only player I don't like on that team. Lundqvist and Nash are borderline.

Rangers fans on the other hand.......

This. So much this.

 

[CH25]

This is dumb. You expect people to not dislike rival fans ? We're all the same. Just some teams have a lot more fans which makes it more apparent. You'd actually find that most of the type of fans you hate also cheer for your team.

 

[Aceonfire*]

This is dumb. You expect people to not dislike rival fans ? We're all the same. Just some teams have a lot more fans which makes it more apparent. You'd actually find that most of the type of fans you hate also cheer for your team.

Sure in some ways. Many Oil fans hate other Oil fans. A passionate fan base is going to have that problem.

I think online interaction makes it worse though. It is way easier to trash talk so fans that don't normally interact end up hating each other.

 

[Brooklanders*]

Fans.
Players I love.

 

[falconski]

Wild- fans, though they have quite a few hate able players

Blues- players, mostly backes and Stewart while he was there

Red wings: name/logo (really just a habit)

 

[saskganesh]

Players. The fans aren't part of the game.