Do the players like Mclellan

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

The thing is you do have to take the larger context into consideration. Would this thread exist if the Oilers were shellacked 8-3 but had a record of 12-6-1? Probably not.

Everything doesn't occur in a vacuum.

Hey you are 100% correct but the context of the thread and question remains, do the players "like the coach"?

I consider that an absolutely asinine question and his followup which I responded to insinuates that the team got bombed in part because the team doesn't like the coach.

So a fair response for an unfair question regardless.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Gee I dont know, Vegas just got bombed 8-2 and Gallant is just fine. Pittsburgh has been bombed 3 times this year and Sullivan is still around last time I checked.

Man you need to chill the hell out.

Well Pittsburgh JUST won a cup and even after their bombs they are 11-8-3
Vegas got bombed like us and they are 12-6-1

We just got bombed after a 4-1 loss and a 6-3 loss and are 7-12-2

They are completely different scenarios, dont be daft.

 

[joestevens29]

The thing is you do have to take the larger context into consideration. Would this thread exist if the Oilers were shellacked 8-3 but had a record of 12-6-1? Probably not.

Everything doesn't occur in a vacuum.

I don't know. We win games in this city and stupid threads pop up

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Well Pittsburgh JUST won a cup and even after their bombs they are 11-8-3
Vegas got bombed like us and they are 12-6-1

We just got bombed after a 4-1 loss and a 6-3 loss and are 7-12-2

They are completely different scenarios, dont be daft.

Not being daft. Read this response. http://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/138184633/

Merely answering a direct question in the context of the thread title.

If you want a different answer then expand the context of the question. Pretty simple.

 

[yababy]

Players have been trying to get Mclellan fired since I posted this Oct 17th.
Why is he still coaching?

 

[Soundwave]

Players have been trying to get Mclellan fired since I posted this Oct 17th.
Why is he still coaching?

Because he's a valuable "fall guy" for Chiarelli to point to in the summer in case Katz gets any ideas.

 

[yababy]

Because he's a valuable "fall guy" for Chiarelli to point to in the summer in case Katz gets any ideas.

I think that's exactly it.
Chiarelli willing to burn a season to protect his own ass. Shame on him.
Clean sweep the whole management team, scouting etc.

 

[VainGretzky]

I really don't think McDavid likes him he has had many coaches and is smart and questions Tmacs choices the look on his face last playoffs at home when Getzlaf set up overtime winner and McDavid on bench and never sniffed Ice Because Tmac thought Getzlaf was dominating us all night his line deserved to go 1st . McDavid had that puzzled look.

 

[DavidHasselhoffsFist]

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Todd’s record as a head coach is 413-262-87 in 762 games but yes let’s fire him because some fans dont think the players like him. I am genuinely afraid for the future of society if this is the mentality we’re going forward with. Who gives a flying f*** if he is liked or not.

 

[FlameChampion]

I really don't think McDavid likes him he has had many coaches and is smart and questions Tmacs choices the look on his face last playoffs at home when Getzlaf set up overtime winner and McDavid on bench and never sniffed Ice Because Tmac thought Getzlaf was dominating us all night his line deserved to go 1st . McDavid had that puzzled look.

I think theres too many games where TM doesnt start McDavid at the beginning of the game or the beginning of the periods. For a team that starts so poorly, you would think you would want your best player setting the tone. I think TM thinks if he starts his third line > second line > first line, he makes it harder for the other coach to match lines. Why doesnt he actually just make in-game adjustments?

I am sure that TM isnt a terrible coach. But this year him and his assistants really have shown to be poor decision makers and in game adjusters.

 

[VainGretzky]

53-18-11
51-20-11
48-25-9
43-29-10
25-16-7
51-22-9
40-33-9
31-43-8
47-26-9
24-30-4

Todd’s record as a head coach is 413-262-87 in 762 games but yes let’s fire him because some fans dont think the players like him. I am genuinely afraid for the future of society if this is the mentality we’re going forward with. Who gives a flying **** if he is liked or not.

A monkey could of coached those Stacked Sharks teams are you kidding me Thornton Marleau Pavelski Couture Burns lol how did he do in the playoffs with all that power ? 2 losing seasons out of 3 with Oilers extend him fast . Only a brilliant coach would ice a career 4th line center as a extra man for a year and a half steady with 0 results and as soon as he stops team scores 3 last minute goals since. Only a brilliant coach calls a very rare timeout when the opposition team is gassed in the last minute and called for a icing to do them a favor when he rarely calls one for his own team. Only a brilliant coach ices one of the slowest players in the league 3/3 in ot with all that open Ice or has his Pet out there for one as well and both times have it blow up in your face.

 

[ZJuice]

A monkey could of coached those Stacked Sharks teams are you kidding me Thornton Marleau Pavelski Couture Burns lol how did he do in the playoffs with all that power ? 2 losing seasons out of 3 with Oilers extend him fast . Only a brilliant coach would ice a career 4th line center as a extra man for a year and a half steady with 0 results and as soon as he stops team scores 3 last minute goals since. Only a brilliant coach calls a very rare timeout when the opposition team is gassed in the last minute and called for a icing to do them a favor when he rarely calls one for his own team. Only a brilliant coach ices one of the slowest players in the league 3/3 in ot with all that open Ice or has his Pet out there for one as well and both times have it blow up in your face.

Well said. He isn’t a good coach

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

53-18-11
51-20-11
48-25-9
43-29-10
25-16-7
51-22-9
40-33-9
31-43-8
47-26-9
24-30-4

Todd’s record as a head coach is 413-262-87 in 762 games but yes let’s fire him because some fans dont think the players like him. I am genuinely afraid for the future of society if this is the mentality we’re going forward with. Who gives a flying **** if he is liked or not.

I think it's more that he's a highly overrated coach without a strategic bone in his body. Nobody cares about regular season records when the goal in this league is to win in the playoffs. TMacT is likely one of the very worst in history at that when the talent level of his teams is factored in.

 

[DavidHasselhoffsFist]

I think Todd’s a good coach working with what he’s got

 

[TheNumber4]

I don't agree with this whole players don't play for McLellan thing. Recently the players seem to be extremely low on confidence (makes sense) which could look like being low on effort. But we've seen this TMac team for 3 years now. And the players definitely play for him on a consistent basis. That problem is, the players just aren't very good. No matter how much Matt Benning, or Auvitu want to play their best, their best just isn't good enough. These players will still have muffin shots, still be too slow, still be too small. And for some players, their best efforts are just too slow for the game (Lucic). Or their best efforts won't solve our need for offence from the D-line (all of our D-men). I mean McDavid and Draisaitl with their skill and obvious talents are getting the job done, this should point to a team where the effort is there and the results will follow if you got the talent to back it up.

This is a personnel problem we have in Edmonton. Our players aren't good enough. Blame that on drafting and development or Chia's acquisition abilities I say. I'm not ready to blame this all on TMac given the roster he has.

 

[Soundwave]

I think he's probably an average to above average coach that got handed a very good team in San Jose and now Connor McDavid in Edmonton.

The fact is Peter DeBoer took the Sharks further in one year than McLellan did in like seven or whatever, which included several embarrassing playoff choke jobs.

 

[DavidHasselhoffsFist]

I don't agree with this whole players don't play for McLellan thing. Recently the players seem to be extremely low on confidence (makes sense) which could look like being low on effort. But we've seen this TMac team for 3 years now. And the players definitely play for him on a consistent basis. That problem is, the players just aren't very good. No matter how much Matt Benning, or Auvitu want to play their best, their best just isn't good enough. These players will still have muffin shots, still be too slow, still be too small. And for some players, their best efforts are just too slow for the game (Lucic). Or their best efforts won't solve our need for offence from the D-line (all of our D-men). I mean McDavid and Draisaitl with their skill and obvious talents are getting the job done, this should point to a team where the effort is there and the results will follow if you got the talent to back it up.

This is a personnel problem we have in Edmonton. Our players aren't good enough. Blame that on drafting and development or Chia's acquisition abilities I say. I'm not ready to blame this all on TMac given the roster he has.

This is spot on