Seravalli: Dmitry Orlov looking for an $8 mil AAV

[Oddbob]

If he gets it, YIKES! If he comes close, YIKES!

I don't blame him. Severson just got $50M, and I think Orlov is a better player than him by a decent margin.

Agree on talent, but Severson is 3+ years younger than Orlov.

 

[RandV]

Technically you could get away with paying him $8M next season, if it's a contract like 8/8/6/6/4/4 for a $6M cap hit over 6 years. That's often what you see with contracts for players his age.

 

[Leksand]

So do I. Looking and looking.

As does Klingberg.

 

[PromisedLand]

holy cow. who is going to pay him 8 AAV at 31 yrs old. Whats the term he is looking for?

Who is desperate enough?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

After his first 4, or 6 games with the Bruins people here would have easily paid that.

 

[PullHard]

If he gets it, YIKES! If he comes close, YIKES!



Agree on talent, but Severson is 3+ years younger than Orlov.

Oh I'm not saying he'll get anything for sure, just that it makes perfect sense that he and his agent would be expecting a boatload at this stage.

 

[Soul Assumption]

Chicago can afford it. Orlov-Seth Jones

 

[quietbruinfan]

His price has to come down to 6.5 or so, given age and signs of deterioration in his defensive game. I still think he winds up in Buffalo. Maybe one of the bad Cali teams, if all he cares about is money.

 

[Acallabeth]

People saying that Orlov is maybe a $6M player needs to catch up with modern player prices. His contract was taking 6.8% of the cap on signing , and with the cap expected to rise to 87.5 the season after next, $6M is literally not a raise, and Orlov has since played a much bigger role and won the Cup.

And if he wanted to sign a 2-3 year contract, he could just stayed in Washington.

So I expect some 6.7x7 contract that will be met with message board dissatisfaction.

 

[Breakers]

Man this free agency franking blows.

anybody remember the 2016 massacre they called free agency

 

[Petes2424]

If he wants $8 million AAV, there’s probably a couple of teams who’d give it to him, but doubt he gets more than 3 years. Maybe a team could justify 4 years?

It really is going to be tough finding any team prepared to hand him $8 million over 7 years.

Who? Look at the teams with the cap space to begin with. Would Chicago? Anaheim? Maybe the Isles? Don’t think Arizona, Buffalo, Detroit or Ottawa would.

It’s going to be tough. You would think at the most he could bet $7 million over 7 years.

 

[HockeyWooot]

While I don't think he's worth that, he can probably get something in the 7-7.5m range

 

[Turin]

Not happening

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

dudes turning 32 and ask for 8m

lmaooooooo

 

[trick9]

Seems about right.

Good on him, making the most out of absolutely terrible FA class. He's not worth that much but for a desperate GM... the drop-off between him and the next best guy is massive now that Severson is gone. Someone is going to give him a contract they'll regret later.

He also asked for 6-7 years from Washington. So he isn't going to sign a 2 or 3-year deal.

 

[BB88]

People saying that Orlov is maybe a $6M player needs to catch up with modern player prices. His contract was taking 6.8% of the cap on signing , and with the cap expected to rise to 87.5 the season after next, $6M is literally not a raise, and Orlov has since played a much bigger role and won the Cup.

And if he wanted to sign a 2-3 year contract, he could just stayed in Washington.

So I expect some 6.7x7 contract that will be met with message board dissatisfaction.

Sure Orlov was probably worth the ask but you have to remember he’s 32. You aren’t buying basically any prime years from Orlov.

Any Gm who pays him that should be fired on the spot

 

[Cancuks]

I can see Dubas running out with a blank check book and his Tavares pajamas on.

 

[Acallabeth]

Sure Orlov was probably worth the ask but you have to remember he’s 32. You aren’t buying basically any prime years from Orlov.

I think that Orlov can still be regarded as immediate help for a contending team, a dependable and versatile top 4 defenseman. Some club looking for a last Cup push before a a rebuild may give him his term gambling on him not declining before they enter rebuild.

 

[BKarchitect]

HFB during the summer:

“I am OUTRAGED players x y and z got this much money! WHAT A JOKE! Lolol this contract is TERRIBLE!”

“I am OUTRAGED my team did nothing to improve itself! My GM just sits around and let’s our competitors get better! WHAT A JOKE!”

 

[OtherThingsILike]

I do wonder if someone like the Penguins don't move money around to clear space to just go all in and give him what he wants to try to capitalize on those last few years of potential competitive "window"...and then just add it to the heap of contracts to "worry about down the road".

I do like the idea of Orlov on the Penguins, but that's a bit of a steep price.
It might be worth it, though, depending on what's done about the goalie situation.

 

[Hivemind]

It's part of negotiation. You ask high, then you settle at a favorable figure. He'll probably end up with something in the ballpark of $6.75M AAV x 6 years.

 

[Justicebork]

Orlov fits the Penguins value proposition perfectly: Tie up 70% of your cap on guys in their mid thirties.

 

[Habs Halifax]

If I were him I’d go for my long term retirement contract instead of chasing AAV

That's probably what ends up happening. The $8M ask is just strategy to start high. Heading into his age 32 season and he's a legit 2nd pairing quality that plays physical and chips in on points here and there.

3-5 year deal around $6M is my guess. Salary cap is growing but he's not going to improve from age 32-36. Any GM falling for that trap and willing to pay $7M - $8M is taking salary cap management risk.

 

[Cenzo_]

maybe on a 2-3 year deal

 

[toddkaz]

Dreamer….nothing but a dreamer……

Except Severson got 6.25. If Severson is getting 6.25 and Orlov is much better....Not that I agree with 8m