Dirtiest players post 2005 lockout

[MXD]

Any mention of Steve Avery yet?

Pretty good starting pitcher, and the Braves using him as their 4th starter only emphasized how ridiculous their starting rotation was. Early bloomer. Was a replacement starter by 26. Never struck me as dirty though. Not to be confused with wrongfully-condemned Steven Avery.

 

[MS]

The single dirtiest player I’ve watched in the last 25 years is Andy Sutton but he absolutely never gets mentioned in threads like this because he flew under the radar as a bit player for bad/expansion teams for most of his career.

Huge guy with absolutely zero respect for opponents, headshot specialist, just a viciously dirty player.

 

[lakeshirts37]

Cooke, Tom Wilson, Torres, Trouba, RInaldo having already been mentioned...

Add: Garnet Hathaway.

Brandon Dubinsky pissed me off a good bit. Not sure he quite belongs in this thread, but he's a guy that I always thought, "it'd be nice if an anvil was descending onto him and he only had a comically small umbrella to protect himself..."

Trouba and Wilson do not belong with the likes of Cooke, Torres, Rinaldo, give me a break

 

[Hobnobs]

The single dirtiest player I’ve watched in the last 25 years is Andy Sutton but he absolutely never gets mentioned in threads like this because he flew under the radar as a bit player for bad/expansion teams for most of his career.

Huge guy with absolutely zero respect for opponents, headshot specialist, just a viciously dirty player.

As Thrashers fan I can say you are right. One of the dirtiest POS to play the game.

 

[seventieslord]

Any mention of Steve Avery yet?

Dude's innocent, leave him alone

 

[Michael Farkas]

Trouba and Wilson do not belong with the likes of Cooke, Torres, Rinaldo, give me a break

The only "ranking" (or anything categorically similar) there is players who have been mentioned vs players who hadn't been. Take as long of a break as you need...

 

[noncents]

trouba inclusion is comical

 

[frisco]

Tom Wilson
Jacob Trouba
Raffi Torres
Zac Rinaldo
Steve Downie

My Best-Carey

I should add Lucic. I don't think anyone has mentioned him yet.

My Best-Carey

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

I’m not saying they deserve to be or not be in the conversation , but considering the hate they got while they were playing I’m shocked no one mentioned Burrows or Kesler.

 

[lakeshirts37]

The only "ranking" (or anything categorically similar) there is players who have been mentioned vs players who hadn't been. Take as long of a break as you need...

who said anything about a ranking? You including trouba is ridiculous. thats all.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

I’m not saying they deserve to be or not be in the conversation , but considering the hate they got while they were playing I’m shocked no one mentioned Burrows or Kesler.

i think that was for having dirty mouths more than being dirty players

that said, has there ever been a more infuriating line to play against than when burrows - kesler - cooke was our third line?

 

[MXD]

The single dirtiest player I’ve watched in the last 25 years is Andy Sutton but he absolutely never gets mentioned in threads like this because he flew under the radar as a bit player for bad/expansion teams for most of his career.

Huge guy with absolutely zero respect for opponents, headshot specialist, just a viciously dirty player.

Good one.

Also, went to his HR page, and I had totally forgot, and also can't quite figure out, that he has been employed as a Top-4 D-Men for 7-8 seasons.

 

[McGarnagle]

The one who infuriated me was Alexei Emelin

That guy took liberties like no one else, and it was compounded by the fact that he'd never stand up for his actions and fight because he could turtle behind the fact that he had a metal plate in his face and wasn't allowed to fight. Do he'd just throw dirty hits and slashes and no one could do anything in retaliation.

 

[Hobnobs]

Good one.

Also, went to his HR page, and I had totally forgot, and also can't quite figure out, that he has been employed as a Top-4 D-Men for 7-8 seasons.

Well for the Thrashers era, that should tell you all about how strong the defense was and/or how good of a coach Hartley was.... Although sometimes it was because long term injuries to the D-core.

But after the ATL years when was he deployed as a top-4 D? With the isles he was a bottom-6 D and 2nd PK unit kinda guy and his role diminished from there.

 

[MXD]

Well for the Thrashers era, that should tell you all about how strong the defense was and/or how good of a coach Hartley was.... Although sometimes it was because long term injuries to the D-core.

But after the ATL years when was he deployed as a top-4 D? With the isles he was a bottom-6 D and 2nd PK unit kinda guy and his role diminished from there.

Well, he did average a little over 18 minutes (borderline Top-4 D minutes), then a little over 20 minutes (squarely Top-4 D) in the three seasons following his departure from the Thrashers.

 

[Hobnobs]

Well, he did average a little over 18 minutes (borderline Top-4 D minutes), then a little over 20 minutes (squarely Top-4 D) in the three seasons following his departure from the Thrashers.

Yes but that was because of PK time. His ES time as far as I know was bottom-pairing.

 

[JianYang]

Lucic loved to stick guys in the nuts as well. He would get rattled pretty easily and you never knew what he will do when that happened.

 

[Terry Yake]

cooke and torres are in a class of their own

then you have guys like ruutu, lucic, rinaldo, cousins, and wilson

if we're talking low-key dirty players, its landeskog. guy has been sneaky dirty his entire career

 

[BraveCanadian]

Chris Chelios nearing the end of his NHL career

Chris Chelios was dirty the whole way.. always remember the blatant elbow on Propp way back

 

[VanIslander]

... if their career spanned both pre and post lockout, their dirty play continued post lockout.

Matt Cooke
Brad Marchand
Chris Pronger

Cooke was incredibly diligent at the last Canucks training camp i covered as a newspaper journalist (before my last 22 years overseas), he the first on the ice, last off, work ethic and competitiveness clear every day.

Prongs brings a smile every time i hear his name because of not only his relentless competitiveness but his willingness to do whatever, channeling Moose & Mr. Elbows.

Marchand often reminds me of Claude Lemieux: all-in, teary-eyed, bloody as needed, gotta go all out, damn whatever.

All three were focused on winning, whatever it took. (Few today are so thirsty.)

 

[JianYang]

Chris Chelios was dirty the whole way.. always remember the blatant elbow on Propp way back

Yeah, playing against chelios meant putting up with pain. Pronger was the same way. They had mean streaks and would do whatever it took to take you out of the play, and would cross the line to do it. Derian hatcher was of the same mould as well.

 

[Albatros]

The single dirtiest player I’ve watched in the last 25 years is Andy Sutton but he absolutely never gets mentioned in threads like this because he flew under the radar as a bit player for bad/expansion teams for most of his career.

Huge guy with absolutely zero respect for opponents, headshot specialist, just a viciously dirty player.

As a young rookie he had the best possible mentors in San José, Bryan Marchment and Gary Suter.

 

[Hobnobs]

Cooke was incredibly diligent at the last Canucks training camp i covered as a newspaper journalist (before my last 22 years overseas), he the first on the ice, last off, work ethic and competitiveness clear every day.

Prongs brings a smile every time i hear his name because of not only his relentless competitiveness but his willingness to do whatever, channeling Moose & Mr. Elbows.

Marchand often reminds me of Claude Lemieux: all-in, teary-eyed, bloody as needed, gotta go all out, damn whatever.

All three were focused on winning, whatever it took. (Few today are so thirsty.)

A lot of players today are so thirsty. They just don't try to kill someone to do it and instead uses actual skill.

Funny how these guys did everything to win and yet none of them won more than once. Prongs being one of the biggest chokers in his prime.

 

[Gorskyontario]

Funny how these guys did everything to win and yet none of them won more than once. Prongs being one of the biggest chokers in his prime.

I don't have any love for Chris Prongers game, he was extremely dirty(although hilarious with the media). That being said calling him a choker is absurd. He carried two underdog teams(and 8 seed and a 7 seed) to the cup finals. The oilers run especially. Beyond that the blues had a decent team while he was there, but they were never real contenders in the west. With the wings/stars/avs. Not to mention I don't recall a single series where I or anything thought 'they lost because of Pronger'.

Chris Chelios was dirty the whole way.. always remember the blatant elbow on Propp way back

I watched a podcast recently where Chelios said that hit was retaliation for Propp breaking Chelios's finger with a slash earlier in the season. Not saying it wasn't dirty, but people forget Propp, while a great player wasn't exactly a lady byng candidate on the ice.

 

[Hobnobs]

I don't have any love for Chris Prongers game, he was extremely dirty(although hilarious with the media). That being said calling him a choker is absurd. He carried two underdog teams(and 8 seed and a 7 seed) to the cup finals. The oilers run especially. Beyond that the blues had a decent team while he was there, but they were never real contenders in the west. With the wings/stars/avs. Not to mention I don't recall a single series where I or anything thought 'they lost because of Pronger'.

Canucks series in 03 off the top of my head. Has two good games. Spends the rest of the series taking stupid penalties.

Sharks series in 04. 1 assist and ~20PIM iirc.

And ofc him digging a hole for his team in G6 and being awful in G5 of the cup finals in 2010.