Devils 2017-18 team discussion (player news and notes) VII - Playoff push; read warning in OP first

[SteveCangialosi123]

"All of the things". This chart doesn't have that many individual statistics, most of them are just variations on the same few stats (points, corsi, on ice goals, time on ice) but analyzed in different ways. Presenting it as a comprehensive analysis is misleading, which isn't even the intention of the tool.

Statistically, he’s worse at everything. My eyes tell me he isn’t good. I’m done here. Hopefully he isn’t resigned.

 

[BahlDeep]

Damon Severson On-ice save % 5 on 5 is 90.7.

Butcher 90.5%
Greene 91.3
Vatanen 89.5
Moore 92.1
Lovejoy 92.5

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Damon Severson On-ice save % 5 on 5 is 90.7.

Butcher 90.5%
Greene 91.3
Vatanen 89.5
Moore 92.1
Lovejoy 92.5

Vatanen is our best dmen and Lovejoy is our worst so this stat isn’t saying anything important.

 

[BahlDeep]

Vatanen is our best dmen and Lovejoy is our worst so this stat isn’t saying anything important.

Well Vatanen is playing against top lines, and LJ is playing on the third pairing so that might have to do something with it.

Also, I would like to add, your Moore is dragging Severson down narrative doesn't really hold. So why does Moore have better on-ice save % than Severson?

 

[NJDevils17]

It’s amazing how good Nico is in a game where he played against the best centers in the league. This string bean kid is going to be unreal when he puts on even a little more muscle.

 

[BahlDeep]

I just noticed, Severson is a -59 in his career. Jesus christ lmao.

 

[NJDevs26]

I just noticed, Severson is a -59 in his career. Jesus christ lmao.

I mean it's bad but let's not start the plus-minus debate now too lol

 

[BahlDeep]

I mean it's bad but let's not start the plus-minus debate now too lol

I know, I'm just saying. Wow.

 

[Blender]

I mean it's bad but let's not start the plus-minus debate now too lol

Yea I don't put much stock in +/- unless a player is drastically worse or better than his teammates.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I just noticed, Severson is a -59 in his career. Jesus christ lmao.

OEL is a -56 in his last 2 season. A -76 in his career.

 

[BahlDeep]

OEL is a -56 in his last 2 season. A -76 in his career.

That's terrible too. Wow.

But I would take him over Severson.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

Well Vatanen is playing against top lines, and LJ is playing on the third pairing so that might have to do something with it.

Also, I would like to add, your Moore is dragging Severson down narrative doesn't really hold. So why does Moore have better on-ice save % than Severson?

I believe there’s no conclusive evidence that individual players have any impact on relative save percentage. I’m fairly sure it varies widely year to year and hard to isolate an individuals actual impact.

 

[BahlDeep]

I believe there’s no conclusive evidence that individual players have any impact on relative save percentage. I’m fairly sure it varies widely year to year and hard to isolate an individuals actual impact.

You really think so? A player giving up prime chances in his zone will most definitely have a lower save %. So is playing vs better competition

 

[NJDevs26]

So in other words we're through the schedule hangup now.

 

[NJDevils17]

So in other words we're through the schedule hangup now.

Don’t we only have 8 left? I could be wrong but..?

 

[BahlDeep]

So in other words we're through the schedule hangup now.

I think Philly playing vs only 3 teams who are currently in a playoff position is irrelevant considering they are paying vs Western teams who are very close to being in the playoffs.

 

[NJDevs26]

Don’t we only have 8 left? I could be wrong but..?

No you're correct, that's his typo I guess.

 

[NJDevils17]

No you're correct, that's his typo I guess.

Either way, Florida has some tough games coming up and we’re through our horrible stretch.

 

[Blender]

We have quite a few winnable games down the stretch here. If we fail to capitalize on them and miss the playoffs because of that, that will be entirely on us.

 

[BahlDeep]

Either way, Florida has some tough games coming up and we’re through our horrible stretch.

We still have TBL tonight, but yea

 

[NJDevils17]

We still have TBL tonight, but yea

True and get Washington, Toronto and Pitt again but it’s nothing like the stretch we just had on the road.

 

[haak84]

It’s amazing how good Nico is in a game where he played against the best centers in the league. This string bean kid is going to be unreal when he puts on even a little more muscle.

i dont think hes much of a string bean. hes just not built like a tank. he seems to have great lower body and core strengh. along with impressive flexibility. seems like he focuses more on all around strength than bulking up. it will take him longer to physically mature than others but he will be just as strong pound for pound. i guess it seems to me that he doesnt have much muscular imbalance. which is great for reducing injury.

 

[Nubmer6]

id rather have Sevs, Klefbom hasn't been all that good this year either.

I think they're pretty equal, but Klefbom's a LHD.

 

[njdevils19]

Side note:
Dano is going to give me a heart attack with all his "oh my!", "OHHHH!", and "Oh wow!" comments. I love how much he still wants this team to win.

 

[Jets012]

You guys have watched Moore for years and seriously think Severson drags him down? lol