Rumor: Dallas very interested in Seth Jones, John Klingberg in discussions

[Elysian]

I would love to have Jones in Dallas, but not at the expense of Klingberg, sorry.

 

[NYVanfan]

Jones is a coming UFA, so what are the chances he extends in Van?

i dunno, are they markedly worse vs elsewhere?

next summer the canucks shed $15M in garbage cap in Ericksson, Beagle, Roussel and Luongo (can you believe we're still paying for that guy?) ... so shouldnt be impossible, and they definitely need D help

 

[Burke the Legend]

Klingberg is better.

Seth Jones reputation is mystifying.

He built his reputation during Columbus' big playoff wins against Toronto and Tampa. He hasn't really been a consistent world beater outside of that. I think there's also an element of his original draft hype where there were serious debates of Jones vs McKinnon as #1.

 

[NYVanfan]

If im CBJ, Klingberg doesnt work for me, good as he is. This will be a years-long rebuild, need <25 guys
Kling 29 next summer and a UFA, how does that help them?
If I'm BJs I ask for Harley-Robertson (sounds cool too)

 

[MrHeiskanen]

I would love to have Jones in Dallas, but not at the expense of Klingberg, sorry.

 

[Rebels57]

Or you can look at CBJ roster and realize this chart is idiotic. The team had zero offense, name their top 3 best offensive players. Of course his stats are going to go down, look at that when they had decent players his stats were good.

Why didn't Werenski's play suffer than?

Savard and Gavrikov were both better last year too.

 

[Fatass]

If Dallas can’t afford to resign Kingberg how can they afford Jones?

 

[MrHeiskanen]

If Dallas can’t afford to resign Kingberg how can they afford Jones?

Not affording, but Klingberg wanting to move on potentially.

 

[Frozen Failure]

I take Jones at whatever equivalent dollars over Klingberg. Love Klingberg but I think the whole Jones package makes Dallas better as an actual hockey team.

 

[Zrhutch]

If Dallas can’t afford to resign Kingberg how can they afford Jones?

No no no, they THINK they can sign Jones. It’s delusional. Anyone who thinks Jones will have less of a price tag than Klingberg is dumb.

 

[Magic Mittens]

i dunno, are they markedly worse vs elsewhere?

next summer the canucks shed $15M in garbage cap in Ericksson, Beagle, Roussel and Luongo (can you believe we're still paying for that guy?) ... so shouldnt be impossible, and they definitely need D help

Someone on here was saying Jones won’t sign with a Canadian team. Not sure how true that is, just passing it on

 

[Viqsi]

Why didn't Werenski's play suffer than?

It did.

Savard and Gavrikov were both better last year too.

Savard was similarly having troubles in fits and starts.

 

[serp]

Friedman didn't say that. He said that teams asked Dallas if they would move Klingberg in the case he wouldn't sign. He did not say he thinks Stars can't sign Klingberg just that teams asked about that.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Isn't Klingberg a UFA in a year? How does this possibly make sense for CBJ? Are both Klingberg and Jones signing extensions with their new teams? I have never seen that before in a trade.

There's gotta be more assets moving than Klingberg for Jones.

Klingberg + Gurianov (or something similar?)

for

Jones

 

[Elysian]

There's gotta be more assets moving than Klingberg for Jones.

Klingberg + Gurianov (or something similar?)

for

Jones

Nill's not doing anything like that, IMO.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

He built his reputation during Columbus' big playoff wins against Toronto and Tampa. He hasn't really been a consistent world beater outside of that. I think there's also an element of his original draft hype where there were serious debates of Jones vs McKinnon as #1.

I wouldn't say that's true. He had an excellent four year stretch until this year. The question is whether this year was an outlier or a sign of things to come. Again, this is a player that has much more value in NHL circles than on HF.

 

[Dr Pepper]

There's gotta be more assets moving than Klingberg for Jones.

Klingberg + Gurianov (or something similar?)

for

Jones

Now that'd be an overpayment from Dallas.

 

[serp]

There's gotta be more assets moving than Klingberg for Jones.

Klingberg + Gurianov (or something similar?)

for

Jones

They're pretty close in value imho. The difference is in well re-signabilty. I'd add conditional picks if Jones re-signs but nothing guaranteed until Jones is extended. Other roster players would not be part of the deal.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

They're pretty close in value imho. The difference is in well re-signabilty. I'd add conditional picks if Jones re-signs but nothing guaranteed until Jones is extended. Other roster players would not be part of the deal.

Yup. I think based on reading this thread any reasonable person would come to that conclusion. 50% of the people post that Klingberg is better, 50% of the people post that Jones is better.

Pretty much summarizes they are very close in value.

 

[cwede]

... I'd add conditional picks if Jones re-signs but nothing guaranteed until Jones is extended. ...

Not sure such condition still allowed, related rules changed recently

 

[TSA0402]

I'd rather keep Seth as a ufa than klingberg. Even the possibility of extending klingberg gotta come at a high price tag. Not to mention Werenski and him is shades of Karlsson and Burns. Might be the best retool option though...

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

The real reason to trade Klingberg? My cynical friend says its because his jersey sales have dropped off, LOL.

 

[BfantZ]

Yup. I think based on reading this thread any reasonable person would come to that conclusion. 50% of the people post that Klingberg is better, 50% of the people post that Jones is better.

Pretty much summarizes they are very close in value.

Nobody’s really saying anything bad about klingberg though . A few cbj fans have some serious criticism for Jones though . Worry’s me a bit .

 

[Smart Alek]

He built his reputation during Columbus' big playoff wins against Toronto and Tampa. He hasn't really been a consistent world beater outside of that. I think there's also an element of his original draft hype where there were serious debates of Jones vs McKinnon as #1.

That's all this is: Draft hype, and the expected potential that comes with it..

I love Seth Jones as a player, but in no world would I rate him above Klingberg, either offensively or defensively.

 

[Ambassador Of Fun]

If bishop gets taken I’d do Jones and laine for klingberg comeau and 14th overall and a 4th