When all is said and done the US numbers will look good because everyone will have had covid several times(immunity) and there's no one high risk left to die.
Strange land.
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When all is said and done the US numbers will look good because everyone will have had covid several times(immunity) and there's no one high risk left to die.
Strange land.
it's more like a Click It or Ticket law, but ok
Click a seat-belt versus injecting novel pharmaceutical products into ones body. It's not a reasonable comparison.
Wearing a seat-belt is a very minor physical constraint. Drug injection is one of the most invasive procedures possible.
Wearing a seat-belt has essentially no possible adverse effects... vaccines despite their good work very clearly have the possibility to induce negative health effects and even death in unlucky individuals.
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I'm eager to see the details.
I believe that they will include it in the 2021 tax report.
Forever, no. But a few years at least.
I believe you'll need to have a dose 6 months prior in order to be active.
As for the fines/taxes, hopefully, it's only 1 dose.
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I could dig in and get into a back-and-forth with you, but... let me try a different angle. What would you do to get out of this pandemic?
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It will probably be at least 4 or 5 doses, at the current moment, looking at the situation around the world.
Israel is on injection #4, so we will get that, and/or we will get Pfizer's shiny new Omicron vaccine set to release in March.
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It means actually using any free government services I'm allowed to, instead of paying for them and not using them.
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It doesn't matter if it's effective or not, nothing have ever been more beside the point when it come to antivaxer.
They won't get that one dose, so if you want to draw a line somewhere in the sand, then anything greater than 0 is fine.
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Like what though? What do you usually pay for that you were supposed to get free?
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If I was running the show I would have focused on increasing our available health workers, targeted vaccination & early-treatment of the high risk demographics. I would have moved to open COVID specific health facilities in metropolitan areas with fast-tracked staff trained in COVID treatment for low to medium risk patients. Promote exercise, healthy lifestyles, prophylactic use of immune system boosters.
I'm confident I would have been able to produce better numbers and a better societal situation than the jokers running this version of 'public health'.
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And AGAIN, Florida has less Covid related deaths today than friggin Alabama!
De Santis has those health officials running scared! Only state that averages more than 50k cases a day and YET has single digit official Covid deaths. It is becoming very hilarious.
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that's nice in hindsight but what would you do now? Omicron is running rampant and there is still a minority of antivax holdouts who refuse to get the vaccine, prolonging this thing for everyone.
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Correct about the more advanced and superior healthcare system in the US. My son, who commutes to Buffalo daily, was given a random PCR test by Canadian Customs. It took 5 days to get the result. My son told me had it been in Buffalo it would have taken about a half hour- that's for a PCR test, not a rapid test. He also was boosted ( in Buffalo) much earlier than anyone living here.
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Soo.... Your plan was to build a time machine?
Because what you need to do that is a specialized workforce you don't have and you can't train one in 2 years.
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For the tax, yes. It literally target the group of people that won't get vaccinated no matter what.
The rest...Well... Once they get one dose, the fantasy is broken and the first step is taken, they will probably go all the way to get their vaxpassport in order.
Encourage healthy lifestyles, exercise, fresh air, sunlight. Encourage and make available for prophylactic use immune system boosters. Encourage those in high-risk demographics to reduce contacts if possible. Provide vaccines to all those who want them.
Fast-track COVID specific training and open COVID specific facilities in the metropolitan areas for low to medium risk patients. Pay increases to nurses to boost moral.
The singular thinking around vaccines as the holy grail is one key factor why our health capacity is in such a sorry state 2 years into a pandemic. More than 8 out 10 adults are already vaccinated, and some significant percentage of that 2/10 has already been infected and recovered. If vaccines were this level of holy grail some think they are the pandemic would no longer be a pandemic.
You could absolutely have trained people to treat low to medium risk COVID patients in 2 years. Keep the heavy burden away from hospitals and only move the critical and high-risk patients. It's actually kind of crazy to think this was somehow beyond Canada's capabilities.
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