OT: Covid-19 (Part 51) - An Omicron Christmas and Closing New Year!

[FrankMTL]

Picture Legault instead of Fallon (Trump) and the wheel being COVID Restrictions.

f*** you and your glass of wine

 

[WeeBey]

I have no idea what the curfew will accomplish at this point. People will see their family and friends before the curfew. So because you leave your friends place at 9:30pm instead of 11pm, the virus won't circulate?

The government is grasping at straws right now.

What do you mean? You don't wander the streets in the middle of the night during in the dead of Quebec winter looking for strangers to french kiss?

 

[MasterD]

You know what surprised me in the article? Legault actually fighting not to impose a curfew! haha. I always imagined him taking pleasure in f***ing up the young urban population. I was wrong!

I posted a few days ago, I know someone inside the CAQ, and that person told me Legault doesn't want a curfew and will do anything to keep schools open. If we get those things, it's because public health is pushing for them hard. From what I heard, he's the reason we got those small gatherings for Christmas, pressure was high to have more measures (that useless presser last thursday, he made it useless).

 

[Adam Michaels]

Not that I actually care that much about a curfew, wouldnt go anywhere anyways, but youre absolutely right. Arruda is in way way above his head, he needs to be changed.

Same here. The curfew won't affect me and my family. We're always in. Only my work, which is open 24/7, for which my company gives us papers for it. But it's annoying that 2 years later, they're still going back to this. And just a week or so ago, they made new measures, and they specified no curfew. And now they're back several days later to add a curfew.

 

[Deebs]

 

[FrankMTL]

What do you mean? You don't wander the streets in the middle of the night during in the dead of Quebec winter looking for strangers to french kiss?

Yes, yes I do. He infringing on my rights to make out with strangers in the middle of winter.....past 10pm.

Oh well, I guess I can always track down those pictures of Due Lipa in her winter bikini with Hello Kitty boots on twitter again.

 

[OnTheRun]

So for one day that he think might be problematic he might put a 3 week curfew? People will just spend the night at their friends house. There's already a limit of 6 people per private household and the restaurants need to close by 10pm anyways...

It's the goal, more or less.

People need to settle down somewhere before hour X, so you don't have friends house--->bars--->after hours--->home. As long people are not moving around after curfew then it accomplish most of its goals.

 

[Burke the Legend]

Not that I actually care that much about a curfew, wouldnt go anywhere anyways, but youre absolutely right. Arruda is in way way above his head, he needs to be changed.

Un couvre-feu dès demain ? | Legault et Dubé feront le point sur la pandémie à 17 h
"Dans le brouillard

Mais les échos obtenus de la Santé publique font comprendre rapidement que les décisions se prennent désormais en s’appuyant sur l’intuition plutôt que sur une base scientifique formelle. Avec la multiplication des tests rapides, Québec a perdu le contrôle quant à l’évaluation du nombre de cas, qui ne sont pas nécessairement rapportés.

Difficile, dans ces conditions, de repérer des sources d’éclosion, de savoir précisément où frapper. Deux réunions importantes, mardi soir et mercredi après-midi, n’ont pas donné d’avis clair à l’équipe du Dr Horacio Arruda quant à la direction à prendre. Comme à l’habitude, les réunions se sont terminées sans conclusion nette, sans même que le directeur national de santé publique fasse sentir qu’il avait une opinion arrêtée quant aux mesures à adopter.

Chez les spécialistes, les avis divergent devant l’impossibilité d’évaluer précisément l’impact du couvre-feu pour enrayer la propagation de la maladie, par exemple."

Google translate:
"
In the fog
But reports from Public Health quickly made it clear that decisions are now made on the basis of intuition rather than a formal scientific basis. With the proliferation of rapid tests, Quebec has lost control over assessing the number of cases, which are not necessarily reported.

It’s difficult, under these conditions, to spot the sources of the outbreak, to know precisely where to strike. Two important meetings on Tuesday evening and Wednesday afternoon did not give Dr Horacio Arruda's team a clear indication of where to go. As usual, the meetings ended without a clear conclusion, without even the national director of public health giving the impression that he had a strong opinion on what to do next.

Among specialists, opinions differ over the impossibility of accurately assessing the impact of the curfew on halting the spread of the disease, for example. "

Yes he is in full panic mode. That’s not acceptable from a minister with so much responsibility. Legault needs to take charge instead of accepting the advice of a confused man who is making crazy decisions “by intuition”

 

[FrankMTL]

It's the goal, more or less.

People need to settle down somewhere before hour X, so you don't have friends house--->bars--->after hours--->home. As long people are not moving around after curfew then it accomplish most of its goals.

Aren't bars and after hours closed?

 

[OnTheRun]

Aren't bars and after hours closed?

Yes, It wasn't specific to the hypothetical curfew will we get today. Just about the general goal of a curfew, which is roughly to "freeze" people in one place for ~50% of the day.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

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[ClasslessGuy]

This is just getting ridiculous, I get the schools, 50% capacity , mask, passport etc etc but a curfew doesn't do anything

 

[MasterD]

Yes he is in full panic mode. That’s not acceptable from a minister with so much responsibility. Legault needs to take charge instead of accepting the advice of a confused man who is making crazy decisions “by intuition”

Legault isn't well versed in health sciences, he can't really make those calls. But he definitely should find new advisors.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

This is just getting ridiculous, I get the schools, 50% capacity , mask, passport etc etc but a curfew doesn't do anything

The science from other countries does not even warrant such a move.

It reaks of authoritarianism.

 

[Cacaniemi]

Curfew at 9pm or 10 ?

 

[the]

The more time goes by the more I’m starting to slowly become “un complotiste sale”.

 

[Crusher117]

The more time goes by the more I’m starting to slowly become “un complotiste sale”.

There is a difference between being pissed that the government dropped the ball hard on the booster program and now we playing catch up while Omicron spreading vs the vaccine is a depopulation tool and we will all die because of it and that Trudeau built concentration camps for the unvaccinated.

Quebec really ****Ed up the booster roll out. I'm 33 years old and im already past my 6 months.

 

[WeeBey]

Picture Legault instead of Fallon (Trump) and the wheel being COVID Restrictions.

I disagree that the decision making is random; it's actually more of a cover. It's something they can point to and say "We took action". If cases go down they can say "See! The curfew worked!" and if cases go up they can say "Look what happens when don't obey curfew!"

 

[OnTheRun]

The more time goes by the more I’m starting to slowly become “un complotiste sale”.

There is no cure for that and most never come out of that hole. So take a step back and chill.

 

[Milhouse40]

The science from other countries does not even warrant such a move.

It reaks of authoritarianism.

Yeah, it reaks of it......surprise you're not being killed for those comments like in the real authoritarian regime, guess you don't know what it is actually. Stop being afraid.

This is a just a government that dropped the ball at every turn in the last few monthsand now needs time to get back on track.

Government are incompetent morons, not evil....you are really on the fear train.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Yeah, it reaks of it......surprise you're not being killed for those comments like in the real authoritarian regime, guess you don't know what it is actually. Stop being afraid.

This is a just a government that dropped the ball at every turn in the last few monthsand now needs time to get back on track.

Government are incompetent morons, not evil....you are really on the fear train.

You said it, the government are incompetent morons and failed at every turn. So now they need time and the answer is to lock people in their homes.

Seems reasonable in a democracy.

 

[OnTheRun]

There is a difference between being pissed that the government dropped the ball hard on the booster program and now we playing catch up while Omicron spreading vs the vaccine is a depopulation tool and we will all die because of it and that Trudeau built concentration camps for the unvaccinated.

Quebec really ****Ed up the booster roll out. I'm 33 years old and im already past my 6 months.

You were good for 7~9 months before needing a booster back when Delta was our main concern.

 

[Deebs]

 

[McGuires Corndog]

You were good for 7~9 months before needing a booster back when Delta was our main concern.

I seem to recall the data pointing to recommendation of a booster after 6 months for Delta, it was one of the reasons Israel aggressively pushed the 3rd shot.

Either way, they seem to be having a huge spike in “cases” right now too. Cases ultimately mean diddly if people aren’t being hospitalized though.

 

[Licou]

I seem to recall the data pointing to recommendation of a booster after 6 months for Delta, it was one of the reasons Israel aggressively pushed the 3rd shot.

Either way, they seem to be having a huge spike in “cases” right now too. Cases ultimately mean diddly if people aren’t being hospitalized though.

Vaccination coverage is lowish in Isreal though.

They have trouble convincing the fundamentalists to get vaccinated.