OT: Coronavirus 2 - Covid Boogaloo

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jiitu

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Now compare these numbers to what China and South Korea have done. What's the difference? Why is China now able to open up?

Simply because they took the "total closure" tactic. It was 2 months of absolute total shut down of wuhan (shorter for other). SOmething that was possible only in communistic dictature. It took 22 months to get few days without any local infections. Not a single factory was running, almost non of business.

So now it will be seen, how long they can live without new outbreak. Many seem to think that its over for China. It's not. They have horrible load of work to catch all the foreign infections and cut the chains. One day they will miss one chain and it will start all over again.
 

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It's vaguely possible there's something to @Roboturner913 's suspicion that he may have had corona already in December.

It was only on December 31 that China admitted it was grappling with a mysterious flu-like problem causing pneumonia in Wuhan.

But former F1 boss Briatore thinks he had coronavirus before that in Italy.

“I was sick in December,” the Italian told Italian broadcaster LA7.

“I had a very high fever, pain in my lungs and shortness of breath. It lasted for a dozen days. My doctor couldn’t understand what was happening.

“They took X-rays and CT scans that showed a shadow in my lungs. After the virus broke out in Italy, my doctor told me that I must have had coronavirus. Fortunately, I have already recovered,” the 69-year-old added.

Obviously ol' Flavio is not the gentleman I would find the most trustworthy person in the world, but.

https://grandpx.news/briatore-thinks-he-had-virus-in-december/
 
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NHL's COVID19 : Latest on a possible return, playoffs, draft & Seattle

Will there be a mini training camp when the NHL returns?

Kaplan: Yes. The NHL and NHLPA are meeting regularly, and they agreed that this a necessity. Players haven't had access to ice and, in most cases, the professional-grade gyms and trainers they have in the offseason, so it would be unfair to ask them to jump right back on the ice in game situations -- let alone in a playoff scenario. That would be an injury risk.
What that training camp will look like depends on when the league restarts. If public authorities deem it safe, teams will open their training facilities and allow players to get back on the ice or in the gym even before something formal is announced. For now, players have been asked to remain in self-quarantine until at least March 27.
Are players being tested?

Kaplan: NHL players are getting tested on a case-by-case basis. Those efforts are coordinated between the NHL, the NHLPA, the individual clubs and local health authorities, with input provided from infectious disease specialists. We haven't seen full teams order tests for their players from private companies, like we've seen in the NBA, and according to sources, the NHL testing so far has focused mainly on those who are showing symptoms.
The NHL's coronavirus pause: The latest on a possible return, playoffs, draft, Seattle and more
 

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Does the NHL have a timeline for when play could earliest resume?

Greg Wyshynski: The NHL remains on the timeline it established in a March 16 communication to the players, who were told to self-quarantine through March 27. The NHL hopes after that point to allow "the opening of club facilities to players in scheduled and coordinated small groups for voluntary training, and care of the players on the same basis as in the offseason." It still hopes for "the potential of opening a training camp period roughly 45 days into the 60-day period covered by the CDC's directive."
But any plans by the NHL and its players are entirely contingent on federal and local restrictions on travel and social distancing. As we've seen, some regions are taking more stringent action than others. For example, the stay-at-home edict enacted by California's governor last week meant residents were to stay at home "except for essential reasons like buying groceries or seeking medical care." How would that affect the Sharks, Ducks and Kings players and staff attempting to use team facilities?
Is there a cutoff date when the league would cancel the rest of the season?

Kaplan: If there is, the NHL hasn't shared that date publicly. The NHL has made a stance, however, that it wants to do everything it can to have a complete and "relatively normal" 2020-21 season. Commissioner Gary Bettman told ESPN's Get Up last week that he believed that under the current circumstances, the league can "go later than we've ever gone."
"How late is a good question," Bettman said. "What we want to make sure of is that we don't do anything from this season that might impact next season and having the normalcy it is supposed to have. So the two factors are timing relative to how late we can go without impacting next season, and making sure that whatever we do competitively, if we are going to complete this current season, it has to have integrity, and it has to be respectful of the well-over-100-year history of the Stanley Cup. And that's something we're very focused on."
The NHL's coronavirus pause: The latest on a possible return, playoffs, draft, Seattle and more
 

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More reports that a suspiciously covid-like disease was spreading in Italy already in December or even November:

Professor Remuzzi, Director of the Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacological Research in Milan, said in an interview last week that local doctors 'remember having seen very strange pneumonias [sic], very severe, particularly in old people, in December and even in November.'

The article is more about the spin various parties try to put on it, and the cases obviously weren't diagnosed Covid-19, but it may well be that the official history doesn't have it correctly on where and when the coronavirus was.

Chinese state media suggests coronavirus pandemic originated in Italy | Daily Mail Online
 

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So apparently the migration is causing double posts... So we've got that going for us, which is nice.

Lockdown order in place as of this Friday thankfully in Winston-Salem now. Of course, won't make a lick off difference to my current boss despite there being zero f***ing difficulty in working from home here.
 
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Hope things come back to somewhat normal in the next couple of weeks.
 

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There's some hangup in the page loading after you post, but if the page stucks it looks like it's safe to just refresh the page after there's been some visible reloading action on the page after your posting. You'll find out your post has gone through.

Pressing another Post Reply at this point causes the double post.
 

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So apparently the migration is causing double posts... So we've got that going for us, which is nice.

Lockdown order in place as of this Friday thankfully in Winston-Salem now. Of course, won't make a lick off difference to my current boss despite there being zero f***ing difficulty in working from home here.

So you're critical and they are unwilling to let you work remotely in IT?

At least there's some down time at home to brush up the resume for when companies start hiring again?

I'm lucky in that my wife and I are both completely able to WFH (she's was already home-based, so her adjustment is dealing with me and our daughter all day.) But my in-laws moved halfway across the country into an apartment here in the Triangle yesterday. They put all the plans in place in December & January. Nerve-wracking day, but at least they are here and the new apartment was wiped down by us.
 
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So apparently the migration is causing double posts... So we've got that going for us, which is nice.

Lockdown order in place as of this Friday thankfully in Winston-Salem now. Of course, won't make a lick off difference to my current boss despite there being zero f***ing difficulty in working from home here.
Monday I was told to grab my laptop, monitors, and anything else I needed and work from home. Meanwhile the hourly guys on the shop floor still have to go in (with me trying to support them remotely is difficult)...but we're in aerospace so they're doing everything they can to not shut down completely. Of course both Clemmons and Winston have their "stay home" orders go into effect Friday, but I still don't really understand how it's any different than our current situation other than they CAN nab you for gatherings of more than 10 or if you're intentionally not social distancing?
 
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I don't post as often as many. But it was really weird not having access to your thoughts about the Canes and life yesterday. Glad HFB is back and hope everyone is doing well.
 
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