Value of: Connor McDavid (thought experiment involving NHL players, not picks or prospects)

[Sweetpotato]

If i was the gm with the 1st oa the only way id move it is for 3 young players C+D+G. For example Hedman+Drouin+Vasilevsky or Ekblad+Bjudstad+ Or Jones+Forsberg+Saros. Literally giving you an entire young core to build around similar to the lindros trade. Im not saying any of those teams do it but thats what it would take for me at least.

 

[Oilwings]

I value McDavid more than any player in the league. Depending on what team he lands on, McDavid could very well lead the NHL in scoring next year. I think he's more valuable that post-concussed Crosby.

Of course, it's all potential right now. But I believe that, in his prime, he will be better than every player on the planet right now.

McDavid is worth more coming out of juniors than Crosby.

The Oilers need 1C, 2C, 1D, 2D, and 1G. Unless 3 or 4 of those assets are coming back then there's no deal for McDavid.

 

[discordant concord]

I value McDavid more than any player in the league. Depending on what team he lands on, McDavid could very well lead the NHL in scoring next year. I think he's more valuable that post-concussed Crosby.

Of course, it's all potential right now. But I believe that, in his prime, he will be better than every player on the planet right now.

Then what combination of players would it take to pry him from your hands? If that isn't enough what league-wide combination of players would it take to get him? A group of all-stars?

 

[Oilwings]

If i was the gm with the 1st oa the only way id move it is for 3 young players C+D+G. For example Hedman+Drouin+Vasilevsky or Ekblad+Bjudstad+ Or Jones+Forsberg+Saros. Literally giving you an entire young core to build around similar to the lindros trade. Im not saying any of those teams do it but thats what it would take for me at least.

Exactly.

Any team that wants McDavid then they need to fill the Oilers' void or MacT hangs up. Simple as that.

 

[McspOiler]

Hall drasaitl klefbom

 

[Oilwings]

Then what combination of players would it take to pry him from your hands? If that isn't enough what league-wide combination of players would it take to get him? A group of all-stars?

That's precisely it. Note, not a bunch of 28+ yo all-stars.

 

[Oilwings]

Lindholm + Skinner without thinning twice.

Not even close. We have our wingers in Eberle, Hall, and Yak. So Skinnner would not do.

 

[discordant concord]

Not even close. We have our wingers in Eberle, Hall, and Yak. So Skinnner would not do.

But is the value at least fair?

 

[Oilwings]

But is the value at least fair?

Heck NO.

 

[discordant concord]

Sedins + Horvat + Tanev

 

[Oilwings]

Sedins + Horvat + Tanev

Not even close. The Oilers have no need for any 30+ yo forwards. S. Weber is the only 30+yo player considered. The Oilers are built to win 2 yrs from now.

 

[discordant concord]

The Oilers are built to win 2 yrs from now.

Ok sorry I forgot about that.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

I'm guessing that whatever the return is, the juice wouldn't be worth the squeeze. No doubt the Flyers would've won the cup if they kept the package they gave up for Lindros.

 

[discordant concord]

Not even close. The Oilers have no need for any 30+ yo forwards. S. Weber is the only 30+yo player considered. The Oilers are built to win 2 yrs from now.

Disregarding the team that drafts him, is the value fair?

two 65-75 point forwards, who are capable of producing with scrubs. they are quality teammates and leaders
one potential second line centre, likely an elite third line centre
one potential elite shutdown d-man

this package basically makes a lot of teams a cup favorite

 

[Willy Styles]

I'd trade:

Kessel + JVR + Nylander + Rielly

IDGAF

We'd go into next year with Strome and McDavid. ERIE OTTERS FTW

 

[Willy Styles]

I'd trade:

Kessel + JVR + Nylander + Rielly

IDGAF

We'd go into next year with Strome and McDavid. ERIE OTTERS FTW

add phaneuf in their too if you'd like.

 

[Oilwings]

Disregarding the team that drafts him, is the value fair?

two 65-75 point forwards, who are quality teammates and leaders
one potential second line centre, likely an elite third line centre
one potential elite shutdown d-man

this package basically makes a lot of teams a cup favorite

I need names.

 

[discordant concord]

I need names.

i gave them to you:

sedins, horvat, tanev

 

[Willy Styles]

Never saw that you did not want prospects:

Kessel + JVR + Phaneuf (20%) + Bernier

for

2015 1st overall

 

[Oilwings]

i gave them to you:

sedins, horvat, tanev

Sedins have about 2-3 great yrs left.
Horvat is nothing special.
Tanev is another 4/5 dman.

 

[higgs011]

Pietrangelo, Tarasenko, Allen+++

But it still doesnt make sense for either side.

Fun to think about though.

 

[Willy Styles]

Pietrangelo, Tarasenko, Allen+++

But it still doesnt make sense for either side.

Fun to think about though.

I'd say

Backes + Tarasenko + Pierterangelo would be more on par as the Oilers have top 6 wingers the need more top 6 centres.

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

Sedins have about 2-3 great yrs left.
Horvat is nothing special.
Tanev is another 4/5 dman.

I don't think you are the best measure of talent in a thread like this. Can we have other fans opinions?

 

[Oilwings]

I don't think you are the best measure of talent in a thread like this. Can we have other fans opinions?

Whatever.

 

[Peen]

Whatever.

Your first opinion is right.
Your second and third opinions however, yeesh.