Player Discussion Colin White - C/RW

[BatherSeason]

They did ask him about Colin White specifically... DJ dodged the question.. good problem to have .. in and out blah bla.. Discussed here
Mornings Hour 2

They continue their discussion with some interesting comments.

I really enjoyed Simmer and JR's discussion about White and Wolanin this morning. For a change, they didn't seem to tow the company line and were quite critical of management/coaching. It was refreshing to hear.

 

[Sweatred]

Chlapik.

Maybe - what winger has he outperformed ?

 

[Sweatred]

I really enjoyed Simmer and JR's discussion about White and Wolanin this morning. For a change, they didn't seem to tow the company line and were quite critical of management/coaching. It was refreshing to hear.

Totally agree ! White should automatically play because he has a $28 million dollar contract - they must be stupid! Idiots !

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Giving up on a young player in Y2 of a contract (overpaid or not) is DUMB. Playing fringe players that may be marginally better in your assessment on the downside of their careers and risking key development time to at least groom the player to be an effective bottom 6er is DUMB

small picture vs big picture

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Is White confirmed scratched Friday?

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Maybe - what winger has he outperformed ?

I thought you wuestion is which center currently not in the lineup has outperformed paquette

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Is White confirmed scratched Friday?

nothing confirmed... chatter is about him being on the 5th line in yesterday's practice with Galchenyuk and Haley (waived)

 

[Sweatred]

Is White confirmed scratched Friday?

No ... for all we know he sits Friday or Saturday or not at all.

There is nothing wrong with making him earn something. So many posters want to spoon feed him while supporting Brown or Brann having to figure it out. This is how you create Bratty children or underdeveloped hockey players.

 

[Sweatred]

I thought you wuestion is which center currently not in the lineup has outperformed paquette

It was in general about anyone. I can’t really tell if Chaplik outperformed Pacquette ? Based on those goals he outperformed most of the team but who knows what the rest of his game looked
Like ?

 

[Micklebot]

What center that isn’t in the lineup do you think has out preformed what winger ? Pacquette was already played LW.

My point is we'll never know since they never tried it in camp.

 

[BatherSeason]

Totally agree ! White should automatically play because he has a $28 million dollar contract - they must be stupid! Idiots !

Who was the idiot that gave him the contract? Was he supposed to say no when it was offered to him?

 

[Karl Eriksson]

We can’t afford to have both Brown and White underperform.

If the plan with Paquette was to light a fire under the kids asses maybe it worked too well and they feel they got burned.

 

[Sweatred]

My point is we'll never know since they never tried it in camp.

I don't really think thats a big deal. They would have an idea os say White vs Watson as 4RW options etc. I'm sure we will see variations.

 

[Sweatred]

Who was the idiot that gave him the contract? Was he supposed to say no when it was offered to him?

This is about doing whats best for the player - The Sens missed out on an entire year of White's development by lawnmowing his path and babying him into the lineup. Its time he went to the school of Norris/Brown/Bath and EARNED some playing time forcing him to change his game. White gloves and lollipops did nothing for him last year.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

It was in general about anyone. I can’t really tell if Chaplik outperformed Pacquette ? Based on those goals he outperformed most of the team but who knows what the rest of his game looked
Like ?

Well then you can say the same about not knowing if paquette has outperformed anyone that isn’t on the team?
So there’s no right answer to your question.

 

[SensFactor]

I want to see both L.Brown and White in real game situations. Give the kids a chance and if they can't cut it then make a move to keep them out of the lineup or trade em.

 

[Sweatred]

Well then you can say the same about not knowing if paquette has outperformed anyone that isn’t on the team?
So there’s no right answer to your question.

Oh I agree... But I think Pacquette's spot in the lineup was never in questions (right or wrong).

 

[Karl Eriksson]

I hope they ask Pierre WTF this morning.

 

[cudi]

So... Maybe as a member of the media he could ask about White in the zoom interviews with the GM and coach? Idk, seems like hes complaining about himself not doing his job, or is that just me?

If he had, he'd be patting himself on the back for asking a good question.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Oh I agree... But I think Pacquette's spot in the lineup was never in questions (right or wrong).

Me neither. I don’t think his or browns or coburns were. Which is the problem so many had before camp started.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I hope they ask Pierre WTF this morning.

Is Pierre on somewhere this morning? I would not expect much of an answer

 

[Sweatred]

Me neither. I don’t think his or browns or coburns were. Which is the problem so many had before camp started.

Connor Brown ? In fairness no body was going to outplay him - he’s a work horse and DJ loves him. He and White are polar opposites. White would do well to model his game after Brown.

The elephant in the room here is there isn't a spot for White on this team without a change to his game. He won't outplay Dadonov, Batherson, or Brown (or Watson) at RW and he won't outplay Norris, Stepan, or Tierney at C. To become relevant to this team he has to become a viable 3C matchup style center option who can play up as a 2C when needed.

So how do you turn a non physical weak player into a strong physical player. 1st step is the player gets strong. It sounds like he did that. 2nd step is you define his role into a defensive first checking player who has to earn his ice time. You teach him how to grind, battle etc. That is what they are doing now and it is the right thing to do. He doesn't have a lot of time, Pinto is coming.

This was blatantly apparent last year (and the year before) but everyone wanted to gloss over his weaknesses and celebrate 14G a contract extension.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Connor Brown ? In fairness no body was going to outplay him - he’s a work horse and DJ loves him. He and White are polar opposites. White would do well to model his game after Brown.

The elephant in the room here is there isn't a spot for White on this team without a change to his game. He won't outplay Dadonov, Batherson, or Brown (or Watson) at RW and he won't outplay Norris, Stepan, or Tierney at C. To become relevant to this team he has to become a viable 3C matchup style center option who can play up as a 2C when needed.

So how do you turn a non physical weak player into a strong physical player. 1st step is the player gets strong. It sounds like he did that. 2nd step is you define his role into a defensive first checking player who has to earn his ice time. You teach him how to grind, battle etc. That is what they are doing now and it is the right thing to do. He doesn't have a lot of time, Pinto is coming.

This was blatantly apparent last year (and the year before) but everyone wanted to gloss over his weaknesses and celebrate 14G a contract extension.

I thought we were talking about paquette lmao

 

[Sweatred]

I thought we were talking about paquette lmao

I only brought up Brown because of this - not sure what you meant to imply. No worries either way.

Me neither. I don’t think his or browns or coburns were. Which is the problem so many had before camp started.

 

[Sweatred]

Is Pierre on somewhere this morning? I would not expect much of an answer

How about the player hasn't been good enough and we need more out of him. Seems simple enough.