Confirmed Signing with Link: [COL] F Nathan MacKinnon signs extension with the Avalanche (8 years, $12.6M AAV)

[Hasbro]

I am smelling serious locker room issues

Sakic told Makar he was worth a bigger deal, but if he took less they’d be more competative. MacKinnon hasn’t been the highest paid player on the Avalanche in year and he never got butt hurt about it.

 

[AslanRH]

This is a bizarre take. MacK was +22 in +/- last season, while Rantanen was +35 and Makar +48...

He is one of HFAvs most optimistic and enthusiastic posters. (edit: In a good way, not with troll intent)
If there is a need for a hype video, he'd be right up there as a first choice to make it.

 

[lionsDen]

He is one of HFAvs most optimistic and enthusiastic posters.
If there is a need for a hype video, he'd be right up there as a first choice to make it.

Optimist’s live longer. Hope ya live forever sea eagles

 

[AslanRH]

delete

 

[Sustrcarry]

Sakic told Makar he was worth a bigger deal, but if he took less they’d be more competative. MacKinnon hasn’t been the highest paid player on the Avalanche in year and he never got butt hurt about it.

I think there is reasonable chance that there are going to be ego clashes and the money in that case would not be the only reason, it just adds to the pile. Also it has to be considered that Makar is not the only teammate, albeit he is the most important one.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Guess those “highest paid player in the NHL” reports were right?

Fair-ish deal but many Avs fans assured everyone he would be giving a discount because he said so.

You’re telling me if he was a UFA no team would offer him a max contract? That is a discount

 

[TomppaKoo]

I think there is reasonable chance that there are going to be ego clashes and the money in that case would not be the only reason, it just adds to the pile. Also it has to be considered that Makar is not the only teammate, albeit he is the most important one.

Landy and EJ are and have been and will be balancing force for the MacK meltdowns. Makar, Rantanen, Toews, Nuke, Lehkonen + youngsters are very level-minded guys and you won't get any drama with them. Ego clash is not going to be a problem with this group. There are too many strong level-minded leaders in it.

 

[Steerpike]

I think there is reasonable chance that there are going to be ego clashes and the money in that case would not be the only reason, it just adds to the pile. Also it has to be considered that Makar is not the only teammate, albeit he is the most important one.

So you're telling me there are multiple talented people working together? And while they all make a lot of money, they make different amounts of money?

The guy who was on the best contract in the league for 7 years is soon going to be the highest paid player. He didn't just come in out of nowhere and demand everything. This is well deserved.

MacKinnon $6,300,000 -> $12,600,000 X 8

The entire core leadership group is very well compensated.

Rantanen $9,250,000 X 3
Makar $9,000,000 X 5
Landeskog $7,000,000 X 7
Johnson $6,000,000 X 1

Then the "outer" core is also well paid
Nichuskin $6,125,000 X 8
Girard $5,000,000 X 5
Lehkonen $4,500,000 X 5
Manson $4,500,000 X 4
Towes $4,100,000 X 2


It's really not a stars and scrubs team. The middle, outer core hasn't been squeezed. If Byram really takes the next step and can stay relatively healthy this season he'll command a salary which will make it difficult to keep everyone. But it's really not that hard to manage to keep most guys happy.

After two seasons Manson loses his NTC and instead has a 12 team list. So Toews might just get all of his money like how MacKinnon is getting all of Johnson's money.

No one here is getting screwed. The only oddity is how Evan Rodriguez is likely to be asked to play 2C despite making only $2,000,000 this year, but it's not like we mistreated him. He just needs to perform well and then likely get a better contract on another team.

 

[Spirits]

This is a bizarre take. MacK was +22 in +/- last season, while Rantanen was +35 and Makar +48...

That is just Sea Eagles, a super positive Avalanche fan. In fact, the only one that had us in the playoffs in 2018-2019.

 

[Spirits]

So you're telling me there are multiple talented people working together? And while they all make a lot of money, they make different amounts of money?

The guy who was on the best contract in the league for 7 years is soon going to be the highest paid player. He didn't just come in out of nowhere and demand everything. This is well deserved.

MacKinnon $6,300,000 -> $12,600,000 X 8

The entire core leadership group is very well compensated.

Rantanen $9,250,000 X 3
Makar $9,000,000 X 5
Landeskog $7,000,000 X 7
Johnson $6,000,000 X 1

Then the "outer" core is also well paid
Nichuskin $6,125,000 X 8
Girard $5,000,000 X 5
Lehkonen $4,500,000 X 5
Manson $4,500,000 X 4
Towes $4,100,000 X 2


It's really not a stars and scrubs team. The middle, outer core hasn't been squeezed. If Byram really takes the next step and can stay relatively healthy this season he'll command a salary which will make it difficult to keep everyone. But it's really not that hard to manage to keep most guys happy.

After two seasons Manson loses his NTC and instead has a 12 team list. So Toews might just get all of his money like how MacKinnon is getting all of Johnson's money.

No one here is getting screwed. The only oddity is how Evan Rodriguez is likely to be asked to play 2C despite making only $2,000,000 this year, but it's not like we mistreated him. He just needs to perform well and then likely get a better contract on another team.

Agreed and Makar, who Avalanche fans know isn't a petty person, will realize he will dwarf other Avalanche in career earnings by certain age marks.

By the time MacKinnon and Makar both hit 30 (respectively) Makar will have made more career earnings. And Conn Smythes.

 

[Steerpike]

Agreed and Makar, who Avalanche fans know isn't a petty person, will realize he will dwarf other Avalanche in career earnings by certain age marks.

By the time MacKinnon and Makar both hit 30 (respectively) Makar will have made more career earnings. And Conn Smythes.

That, and it's not like Makar is being asked to be best friends with MacKinnon? If we didn't re-sign Landeskog I could see how there might be locker room issues. But as it is MacKinnon's abrasion is moderated by the glue Landeskog squirts over everyone during team bonding events.

 

[McVespa99]

Barkov isn't in the same tier and neither is Florida


Hmm I seem to have watched much otherwise

There are all kinds of conditions that can cause people to see something that isn't real...

 

[nbwingsfan]

You’re telling me if he was a UFA no team would offer him a max contract? That is a discount

Zero teams would offer him a max contract. No one is worth a max contract except McDavid, and even then that’s awfully debatable

 

[avsfan9]

The way he was talking I thought he was going to go team-friendly again at like 10 mil. This is great for every other team.

Just wait till O’ money bags asks for 12 million!

 

[JoeSakic13]

Optometrists live longer. Hope ya live forever sea eagles

Optometrists may live longer, but gynecologists live better.

 

[rynryn]

so much innuendo lol

 

[Avsboy]

Anyone claiming this is a bad deal aren’t factoring in the coming inflation. Mackinnon is the 4th or 5th best forward, really in that second tier right below McDavid alone. That calibre of player is today worth AT LEAST 12.6 million today on the open market

 

[Lt Dan]

Great deal for the Avs

 

[lionsDen]

Optometrists may live longer, but gynecologists live better.

Lol man I fouled that one up. Still you make a great point.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

Zero teams would offer him a max contract. No one is worth a max contract except McDavid, and even then that’s awfully debatable

Mackinnon sells seats. He would absolutely get max contract on the open market. Teams also know there will be a huge increase in cap soon

 

[nbwingsfan]

Mackinnon sells seats. He would absolutely get max contract on the open market. Teams also know there will be a huge increase in cap soon

When was the last time a player got anywhere close to max contract?

He might “sell seats” but basically no one can afford a max contract and ice a Cup contending team

 

[Steerpike]

When was the last time a player got anywhere close to max contract?

He might “sell seats” but basically no one can afford a max contract and ice a Cup contending team

Washington did it over the life of Ovie's near max contract.

It's obviously harder than if you have a superstar at value. But the choice a team would be making isn't between expensive superstar and value superstar, they're choosing between a UFA priced superstar and UFA priced washed up vets.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Washington did it over the life of Ovie's near max contract.

It's obviously harder than if you have a superstar at value. But the choice a team would be making isn't between expensive superstar and value superstar, they're choosing between a UFA priced superstar and UFA priced washed up vets.

1. Ovie > Mackinnon
2. Never making it past the second round before 2018 (and only once ever) is a consistent Cup contending team?
3. Still wasn’t a max contract

 

[GirardSpinorama]

1. Ovie > Mackinnon
2. Never making it past the second round before 2018 (and only once ever) is a consistent Cup contending team?
3. Still wasn’t a max contract

Lol imagine thinking Washington wasn't a consistent cup contending team.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Lol imagine thinking Washington wasn't a consistent cup contending team.

Good regular seasons > actually performing in the playoffs.

They never made it past the 2nd round for like 12 years of Ovechkins career. Large part of that being a lack of cap space for quality depth and D.

Now imagine if his cap hit was ~$2M at a full max contract like that guy was saying Mackinnon would have got.