Proposal: COL/EDM

Patagonia

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The Oilers actually need Barrie to spread their offence. If they're unwilling to offer Poolparty or any of their DMen, a futures package with a Cap Dump might work.

2019 1st
2018 2nd
Caleb Jones
Russell

For

Barrie
 

cgf

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The Oilers actually need Barrie to spread their offence. If they're unwilling to offer Poolparty or any of their DMen, a futures package with a Cap Dump might work.

2019 1st
2018 2nd
Caleb Jones
Russell

For

Barrie

lol who wouldn't you trade Barrie for?
 

ChaoticOrange

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The Oilers actually need Barrie to spread their offence. If they're unwilling to offer Poolparty or any of their DMen, a futures package with a Cap Dump might work.

2019 1st
2018 2nd
Caleb Jones
Russell

For

Barrie

There’s nothing wrong with Puljujarvi being involved, but the main issues are 1) Cap - we’d need to send money back 2) difference of opinion in JP’s value IE we wouldn’t be adding much and 3) difference of opinion in Barrie’s value and overall effectiveness including own zone play.
 

The Abusement Park

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The Oilers actually need Barrie to spread their offence. If they're unwilling to offer Poolparty or any of their DMen, a futures package with a Cap Dump might work.

2019 1st
2018 2nd
Caleb Jones
Russell

For

Barrie

Eww. Stop posting stuff like this. You’d trade Barrie for a 5th round pick and Griffin Reinhart.
 

Patagonia

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lol who wouldn't you trade Barrie for?

His role has already been replaced by Girard and they have 3 high end RHD nearly ready he’ll be blocking. With their existing bundle of picks, they’re likely adding another DMen in a draft rich for that position. His value is high and teams are in need of a RHD.
 

The Abusement Park

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What’s wrong with their 1st next season, if they can’t improve it’ll another high pick. 2018 will a high 2nd or nearly a low 1st.

If we’re going to trade our best players season after season it’d be nice to actually trade for a really good player instead of a bunch of lottery tickets. Assuming EDM picks it up next year which I assume they do, it’ll be a late first and the chances that player becomes as good as Barrie aren’t high, same with the 2nd. And Jones is a decent prospect but don’t want him for Barrie.

And no Girard hasn’t replaced Barrie already. Girard is nowhere near good as Barrie right now, except at QB’ing a PP. He doesn’t generate offense at ES anywhere near as good as Barrie and defensively they’re a wash rn. Girard may replace Barrie at some point, but that point definitely isn’t now.
 
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TFHockey

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Is Klevbom playing injured this year? He's been putrid, especially defensively, from what I have seen.
Actually there are a lot of rumors floating around he IS hurt. Has been for quite some time. I think the Oilers should shut down his season, let him get surgery and have him 100% at training camp next year.
 

The List Of Jericho

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Klefbom, and 1st 2019 for Barrie

Colorado gets an upgrade on left defense where they are weaker.
They have Erik Johnson and young QB Samuel Girard on the right side, but only Zadorov on the left.
I believe Klefbom has had on off year due to injury and the teams overall play. Please refer to last years stats, as they would be more indicative of his future play with the Avs.

Edmonton gets the right side D/QB they desperately need.

Edm D:
Nurse Larsson
Sekera Barrie
Russell Davidson/Benning

Col D:
Zadorov Johnson
Klefbom Girard
Nemeth Barbario/Etc.

Seems like a lateral move at best for the Oilers plus Barrie is known as more of a offensive type which is exactly what they don't need. The 2019 first is also a risky venture
 

cgf

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If we’re going to trade our best players season after season it’d be nice to actually trade for a really good player instead of a bunch of lottery tickets. Assuming EDM picks it up next year which I assume they do, it’ll be a late first and the chances that player becomes as good as Barrie aren’t high, same with the 2nd. And Jones is a decent prospect but don’t want him for Barrie.

And no Girard hasn’t replaced Barrie already. Girard is nowhere near good as Barrie right now, except at QB’ing a PP. He doesn’t generate offense at ES anywhere near as good as Barrie and defensively they’re a wash rn. Girard may replace Barrie at some point, but that point definitely isn’t now.

Yeah. I was one of Girard's first champions on our board when most on our board where saying that Samwise was too small to be the bluechip D in a Duchene trade and so wanted Fabbro instead. And wanted him on the first unit PP over Barrie from the get go; but he's not ready to replace Barrie anywhere but on the PP yet. He's smarter defensively, but also weaker and still makes rookie mistakes that Tyson doesn't when he's moving his feet. And when it comes to creating offense 5on5, Girard is absolutely blown out of the water by Barrie. We need to let Barrie be Barrie; while Samwise grows on the third pairing where his minutes can be managed when he has those rough games, and gives our 1st unit PP a boost until MacK is back. In the summer or next season things could change...especially if Bae keeps improving next to EJ and we start seeing Zads and EJ driving offense at 5 on 5 while Girard becomes a more consistent contributer, then Barrie may start to become expendable.

I mean shit, it's not like we have some powerhouse D even with both smurfs and that beastly Zadorov-Johnson pairing. We're anxiously awaiting the return of Mark f***in Barberio for christ sake. That is not the sign of a blue line that can give away any of its good blueliners. We might get there in a few years with those three sexy RHD prospect if they develop quickly, and there could be Barrie trades that are worth messing with out blueline; but pretending like losing our 2nd or 3rd best dman...who's an elite ES creator...wouldn't be a big deal is asinine. As Kento said somewhere on our board, Barrie IS our secondary scoring right now.
 

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