Cleveland Monsters Thread VI (All Affiliate talk here)

[Jackets Woodchuck]

9:57 of the 2nd

unassisted

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

no captain yet: "A"s for each game so far:

10/7 vs. ROC - Broadhurst, Camper, Benoit
10/13 @ MAN - Gallant, Benoit, Ramage
10/15 @ MAN - Broadhurst, Gallant, Benoit

 

[pled]

Benoit should be captain

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

2-1 Manitoba - 2nd intermission

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

3rd period underway

3-1 Manitoba

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

3-1 Manitoba - 5:42 to go

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

4-1 empty netter by Manitoba

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

4-1 Manitoba - Final

 

[pled]

sad the team will most likely suck this year :\

 

[CBJWerenski8]

yeah, most of the top tier prospects have made the Jackets or moved along elsewhere. Time to re-stock Cleveland next year with Stenlund, Elvis, Abramov, and maybe Peeke

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

I'm pretty sure the Monsters' struggles have to do with being in between waves of top prospects. This isn't Triple-A baseball where you can play as many veterans as you have open roster spots after accommodating the prospects. There is a limit to how many veterans you can dress.

 

[pled]

I'm pretty sure the Monsters' struggles have to do with being in between waves of top prospects. This isn't Triple-A baseball where you can play as many veterans as you have open roster spots after accommodating the prospects. There is a limit to how many veterans you can dress.

but they arent even at the limit. finding another forward could help

 

[Columbus Jack]

Thurkauf going to beast this year in the A

 

[pled]

Thurkauf going to beast this year in the A

hes on a line with 2 goons and they are their best line lol

 

[JacketsFanWest]

I'm pretty sure the Monsters' struggles have to do with being in between waves of top prospects. This isn't Triple-A baseball where you can play as many veterans as you have open roster spots after accommodating the prospects. There is a limit to how many veterans you can dress.

There's also a trend of Euro prospects wanting to stay in Europe rather than coming to the AHL. The Monsters right now could have Stenlund, Zaar and Elvis. There's a major push in Sweden to keep players in the SHL and not loose them to the AHL where there is the feeling they are not being properly developed. There's been a list of Swedish draft picks ending up back in Sweden recently after failing to make the jump from the AHL to the NHL and feeling like they wasted their time in the AHL. Which is probably why Zaar went back.

So Cleveland can't count on Stenlund or Davidsson. They likely will want to either make the Jackets or stay in Sweden.

 

[Crede777]

I don't know... maybe Stenlund would require a guarantee but Davidsson is an overager IIRC. I think his younger brother will eventually come over. If given the chance to play as an AHL/NHL tweener he might take it.

 

[JacketsFanWest]

The value of staying the extra years in Sweden is becoming more offensively skilled. Too many Swedes can over too soon thinking they could make an NHL roster by learning to play the North American style game, struggled and ended up being a bottom 6 AHL player and not developing offensively. So they never made it to the NHL since they lacked offensive skill and were beaten out by North American players better suited for bottom 6 roles.

The same thing that happened to Sedlak ruins a lot of players' careers - they're told they need to learn to play better in their own zone, hit more, etc and they don't remember the whole point of the game is to score and that's all they focus on. Sedlak said it was a revelation to him that he should go onto the ice and actually try to score a goal rather than try to stop the other team from scoring. If that hadn't happened, Sedlak would be back in the Czech Republic now.

The same thing easily could have happened to Stenlund if he came over last year and was a bottom 6 player for the Monsters and told he needs to get better defensively to get a call-up. Instead, he stayed in Sweden and focused on offensive skills. He still needs to get better defensively, but at least his offensive skills might get him a Top 6 spot now.

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

Vigneault and Hannikainen to Cleveland



Also, the AHL site has John Mitchell released from his PTO and off the roster, but the Monsters site still has him on the roster.

 

[pled]

they are already short on vet I don't get it

 

[Jackets Woodchuck]

https://www.clevelandmonsters.com/preview/monsters-meet-barracuda-first-time-team-history

Vigneault expected to make season debut tomorrow (per Coach Madden audio clip in above link)

Schroeder expected to play again today (per the "keys to the game" segment of article [near the bottom]).