Rumor: Chychrun has Soured on Ottawa, Unlikely to Extend

[FerrisRox]

And what would that deal look like?

It certainly wouldn't involve an absolute boat anchor contract.

If they trade him they will get legit value back for a piece that would be sought after by several teams. There's absolutely no reason they would need to financially handcuff themselves in order to move Chychrun.

 

[FerrisRox]

Sens would get less for him in the summer compared to what they'd get at the deadline, no question.

I doubt that very much. If he's moved in the late summer, the team that acquires him can extend him, meaning that conversation would happen prior to finalizing the trade.

If he's traded at the deadline, no such conversation can happen.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

All GMs answer the phone, and listen, especially this time of year.

Especially ones who are new to the organization, under a new owner, on a team that hasn't had success in 7 years

 

[KevinRedkey]

Injury-prone defender, that actually cant defend very well at 4.6M? He HAD positive value. Now not so much...

His style of play has always been what it is today, and he's missed 0 games since being traded. lol

 

[Zippy316]

He would be such a good fit in NJ. Been wanting them to acquire him for a couple years now.

He’s the exact LD they need that would be able to play with any of Hamilton, Nemec, or Marino depending on the role needed. Allows the Devils to shelter Luke a bit until he comes into his own too.

Devils could also offer up Bahl or Siegenthaler as part of the package too.

 

[Hale The Villain]

I doubt that very much. If he's moved in the late summer, the team that acquires him can extend him, meaning that conversation would happen prior to finalizing the trade.

If he's traded at the deadline, no such conversation can happen.

You're not getting it. Let me put it a different way - what do you think the Sens would get if they traded Chychrun in the summer to a team he'd extend with?

I'd guess maybe a late 1st round pick or a couple 2nds + maybe a longshot prospect. Similar return to what DeBrincat got in a similar situation.

What would stop a playoff team from trading for him at the deadline, renting him for the rest of the season + playoffs, and then trading him for the same value that the Sens would get if they traded him in the summer? Nothing.

If your argument is that said team would be able to actually get more for Chychrun in the summer compared to what they would need to pay to add him at the deadline, they would actually not only be adding Chychrun for a playoff run for free, but would actually be paid to do it.

 

[Neutrinos]

It certainly wouldn't involved an absolute boat anchor contract.

If they trade him they will get legit value back for a piece that would be sought after by several teams. There's absolutely no reason they would need to financially handcuff themselves in order to move Chychrun.

Give me an example of what that trade would look like...

Name the team and the players/picks involved

 

[Golden_Jet]

His style of play has always been what it is today, and he's missed 0 games since being traded. lol

pretty sure he missed the last 2-3 weeks of the season last year.

Give me an example of what that trade would look like...

Name the team and the players/picks involved

It certainly wouldn’t involve Goodrow lmao.

 

[dirtydanglez]

to nj for njs 2024 1st, 3rd, and 2025 2nd.

 

[Silky Johnson]

how much RD has he played?

So much. He is amazing at it. Also never plays poorly in his own end.

Thee 1st or equivalent at the deadline. Maybe four.

 

[xVolchenkov]

Staios has held talks with other teams about a Chychrun trade

Why is this being posted now like its new news? The Staios quote is from weeks ago when he first addressed the rumor.

EDIT - Maybe it was a "new" quote, but underline message is the same:

 

[drede]

Pierre Dorion will go down as one of the worst GMs in history

Only good move he made was ek trade

 

[Gil Gunderson]

to nj for njs 2024 1st, 3rd, and 2025 2nd.

I'd do it. Pretty similar to what we gave up for him. The NJ pick might even be far off from the 12th overall we gave up.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

It certainly wouldn’t involve Goodrow lmao.

Goodrow obviously has hardly any market (even at negative value) but if he does have one, Ottawa is probably in it.

I'm not saying he'd be viewed as an asset, but if he's attached to the best assets offered up I'm not so sure it would be a deal breaker.

 

[wetcoast]

So much. He is amazing at it. Also never plays poorly in his own end.

Thee 1st or equivalent at the deadline. Maybe four.

Why not 5?

 

[thefutures]

So much. He is amazing at it. Also never plays poorly in his own end.

Thee 1st or equivalent at the deadline. Maybe four.

Just like debrincat got you kasper +

 

[wetcoast]

I'd do it. Pretty similar to what we gave up for him. The NJ pick might even be far off from the 12th overall we gave up.

I wonder on 2 fronts if NJ would do this and if the Sens gets s much as this.

Just like debrincat got you kasper +

I think he was being sarcastic.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Just like debrincat got you kasper +

Chychrun would return five 1sts. Maybe four & a 2nd from Detroit.

I wonder on 2 fronts if NJ would do this and if the Sens gets s much as this.

Sens will almost definitely get less back than that in terms of futures but they will also almost definitely add an NHL body in return.

 

[thefutures]

Chychrun would return five 1sts. Maybe four & a 2nd from Detroit.

Sens will almost definitely get less back than that in terms of futures but they will also almost definitely add an NHL body in return.

Yeah for sure. You guys have all the leverage too

 

[Rpenny]

take a look at the contracts the sens have locked up for next year

Stults 8+
Brady 8+
Norris 7.95
Girous 6.5
Chabot 8
Sanderson 8

I think the message being sent is wrong. Sens have soured on him and what he gone

 

[Petes2424]

It’s time the Sens new management puts their foot down. If Brady and Chychrun want out, get rid of them. Then call everyone else in, and make sure this isn’t contagious.

They have all the leverage with Brady, but Chychrun has some leverage in his situation.

Unfortunately he’s not the player many of us thought he was going to end up. Me included. He’s much closer to Gostisbehere, than he is to a Hanifin. His defensive lapses are not what you see from top end dmen. Does he “carry a pair” better than Ghost? Absolutely, and that increases his value over a player like Ghost, even though their production is very similar. He’s just not a great defensive player. It’s why it’s laughable that anyone would suggest the Sens keep him over Chabot.

Production is all that matters for players in their prime. He’s not a prospect anymore. Has a big name, but his production matters most now. He didn’t become what many thought. Exactly why his trade last year, was much less (in return) than many anticipated.

He’s still worth what they gave up last year, or a quality player (or two) in return. In fact, a hockey trade is what they should pursue. 100%. Get themselves a role playing dman, and a very professional forward. A player who can play up and down the lineup, kill penalties, and give you 35-50 points a season, who has term.

Use Chychrun’s value, to place a couple of those “professional” players (they say they want to add) into their lineup. The days of futures have to be over in Ottawa. Use assets to better the team. Not the future.

 

[WingsToPick4th]

what do the sens need in a trade If he wants out? Picks or players?

Berggren + 2nd + Maatta (cheap LHD) be close?

 

[bert]

Another team looking to move him? Well at least he might play over 60 games in a season this year, that's a plus.

I'll pass on him. Super overrated.

He was never a fit with Chabot and Sanderson. Just another idiotic move by Dorion. You can't tie up 20+ million on LD. They have to maximize the asset he's worth more in a deal than Chabot so he's the one that's gonna be traded. He's a good player legit top 3 d man plenty of teams will have interest. 4.6 million two cup runs is very do able.

It’s time the Sens new management puts their foot down. If Brady and Chychrun want out, get rid of them. Then call everyone else in, and make sure this isn’t contagious.

They have all the leverage with Brady, but Chychrun has some leverage in his situation.

Unfortunately he’s not the player many of us thought he was going to end up. Me included. He’s much closer to Gostisbehere, than he is to a Hanifin. His defensive lapses are not what you see from top end dmen. Does he “carry a pair” better than Ghost? Absolutely, and that increases his value over a player like Ghost, even though their production is very similar. He’s just not a great defensive player. It’s why it’s laughable that anyone would suggest the Sens keep him over Chabot.

Production is all that matters for players in their prime. He’s not a prospect anymore. Has a big name, but his production matters most now. He didn’t become what many thought. Exactly why his trade last year, was much less (in return) than many anticipated.

He’s still worth what they gave up last year, or a quality player (or two) in return. In fact, a hockey trade is what they should pursue. 100%. Get themselves a role playing dman, and a very professional forward. A player who can play up and down the lineup, kill penalties, and give you 35-50 points a season, who has term.

Use Chychrun’s value, to place a couple of those “professional” players (they say they want to add) into their lineup. The days of futures have to be over in Ottawa. Use assets to better the team. Not the future.

Neither have asked to get moved. Holy f*** anyone actually doing any research?

They absolutely should be taking futures all this teams core is 24 and under its about sustainable success. They need his money to target a rd in the offseason. One of Pesce, Tanev, Demelo or Roy.

 

[Petes2424]

He was never a fit with Chabot and Sanderson. Just another idiotic move by Dorion. You can't tie up 20+ million on LD. They have to maximize the asset he's worth more in a deal than Chabot so he's the one that's gonna be traded. He's a good player legit top 3 d man plenty of teams will have interest. 4.6 million two cup runs is very do able.


Neither have asked to get moved. Holy f*** anyone actually doing any research?

They absolutely should be taking futures all this teams core is 24 and under its about sustainable success. They need his money to target a rd in the offseason. One of Pesce, Tanev, Demelo or Roy.

This entire website is based on speculation. It’s what this post is about. Of course people are going to comment. If you’d read though, you’d see I said “IF”, which addresses the exact subject of this post. Lol.

As for Brady, the reports are Brady may want out. That’s not what Staois addressed. He was only telling us, he has no intentions of trading him. That’s what a manager always says in these situations, when they first break. We don’t even know if he’s spoken to Brady about this. He specifically said he’s addressing that he was told “he’s considering to trade him.” That’s NOT what the report was. Exactly why I said, don’t play months of games because you don’t wanna move a player. Find out if the player wants to be there or not. If he doesn’t, trade him. It’s very simple. His comments today were about his goals and intentions. Not Brady’s.

So that speculation is only going to continue now, until Brady comes out and denies it.

As for Chychrun, read what Staois said about the deadline, and about building the team with quality vets around these young players. So why on earth, would you take futures for Chychrun, if you can get 1 or 2 of those type of players in return? You wouldn’t. He also said it’s a shame this got out. So obviously it looks like there’s truth to JC not wanting to extend. That equals a player likely wants to leave.

If you’re expecting a manager to come out and announce players want to be traded, you’ll be waiting a long time. They want to keep all the leverage they can. Do you think he wants Chychrun turning into another Debrincat situation? Of course not. We should expect him to be traded in the next week now. The longer he waits, the more leverage he loses.

 

[bert]

This entire website is based on speculation. It’s what this post is about. Of course people are going to comment. If you’d read though, you’d see I said “IF”, which addresses the exact subject of this post. Lol.

As for Brady, the reports are Brady may want out. That’s not what Staois addressed. He was only telling us, he has no intentions of trading him. That’s what a manager always says in these situations, when they first break. We don’t even know if he’s spoken to Brady about this. He specifically said he’s addressing that he was told “he’s considering to trade him.” That’s NOT what the report was. Exactly why I said, don’t play months of games because you don’t wanna move a player. Find out if the player wants to be there or not. If he doesn’t, trade him. It’s very simple. His comments today were about his goals and intentions. Not Brady’s.

So that speculation is only going to continue now, until Brady comes out and denies it.

As for Chychrun, read what Staois said about the deadline, and about building the team with quality vets around these young players. So why on earth, would you take futures for Chychrun, if you can get 1 or 2 of those type of players in return? You wouldn’t. He also said it’s a shame this got out. So obviously it looks like there’s truth to JC not wanting to extend. That equals a player likely wants to leave.

If you’re expecting a manager to come out and announce players want to be traded, you’ll be waiting a long time. They want to keep all the leverage they can. Do you think he wants Chychrun turning into another Debrincat situation? Of course not. We should expect him to be traded in the next week now. The longer he waits, the more leverage he loses.

There's no report Brady wants out. It was a made up rumor by guys that openly admit they make up rumors for hits. Do 10 seconds or research and save yourself the 15 minute essay. The same guy said he heard matthews won't extend. Another one of them said Sid wanted to get traded to Colorado.

Chychrun literally came out and said he didn't want to he traded. You're doing absolutely no research.

You clearly know nothing about the sens their make up or what they are lacking. They need to move chychrun to replenish the prospect pool and clear cap to go after a veteran RD in the offseason.