Player Discussion Chris Tanev (4 years, 4.5m AAV)

[Hockey Rush]

Someone tell me how I should feel about this.

Scared in years 3 and 4.

Great D man when healthy. Hope you have a D partner to keep him from getting crushed into the boards. Being paired with Hughes limited his contact with the boards as Hughes would do most of the breakouts. The reason he constantly got hurt in Vancouver prior to Quinn was because he took so much contract along the boards in his own zone. I wish him well. Vancouver probably only probably willing to do 2-3 years term because of his wear on his tires. He is a hell of a D man, I hope he stays healthy for you guys!

 

[FlamesFreak4]

tanev used to be a decent player



Yea when people says shake the team they really meant add several brutal UFA band-aid contracts. spot on

not an overreaction. Nope not one bit.

 

[Hockey Rush]

Hanifin - Andersson
Valimaki - Tanev
Giordano - Kylington

As a Canucks fan. I think he would look better beside someone fast exciting the zone. Maybe a Hanifin? can eat up minutes and be a good defensive pair?

 

[Fig]

I was happy that you guys got Markstrom.. but Tanev too.... ugh.. cmon guys :-( leave us sumthin...

If i am Treliving, I'm looking at stetcher as well if Benning hasn't locked him up.

Sorry in advance...

 

[Fig]

As a Canucks fan. I think he would look better beside someone fast exciting the zone. Maybe a Hanifin? can eat up minutes and be a good defensive pair?

Training mode:
Gio - Andersson
Hanifin - Tanev
Valimaki - x

Heavy lifting/conserve Gio and Tanev:
Hanifin - Andersson
Gio/Valimaki - Tanev
Valimaki/Gio - x

 

[Dertell]

Calgary is an actively better team after today though

brodie >>>> a (hopefully, in a TOI sense) third pair dman and some goaltender

 

[Hockey Rush]

Tanev has had a number of unfortunate injuries but he did play all 69 Vancouver games and 17 playoff games in the 2019-20 season.

He was hurt and expected to miss the next game before the pause. Likely a multi-week injury lol. So technically "healthy all season"

 

[Rubi]

As a Canucks fan. I think he would look better beside someone fast exciting the zone. Maybe a Hanifin? can eat up minutes and be a good defensive pair?

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the following pairings:

Giordano-Andersson
Hanifin-Tanev
Valimaki/Kylington-??

Giordano and Andersson played well together when Brodie was recovering from his on-ice blackout.

 

[bobbyb2009]

"but for passing the torch to Hanifin, Valimaki and Andersson, Tanev is better IMO."

Agreed!

We (Canucks) can not replace this guy and what he did for Hughes last year, and the team for a decade.

This makes the Canucks so much worse. This guy is a warrior glue type who has the ability to play against anyone. Every team needs a top 4 guy who can do the heavy lifting and keep up. Canucks will miss this guy so much.

Enjoy him. He is a great teammate and a very good player!!!

It will be years before the Canucks can find another one like him

Congrats- but a sad day for this fan.

 

[Hockey Rush]

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the following pairings:

Giordano-Andersson
Hanifin-Tanev
Valimaki/Kylington-??

Giordano and Andersson played well together when Brodie was recovering from his on-ice blackout.

Can Andersson handle those minutes?

 

[Rubi]

He was hurt and expected to miss the next game before the pause. Likely a multi-week injury lol. So technically "healthy all season"

Travis Hamonic, who Tanev is replacing, played 50 games this past season and 69 in the previous season. The Flames are used to having a fill-in in the 4th d spot. Tanev is better than Hamonic so that's an upgrade.

I expect Calgary's top two defensive pairings to be:

Giordano-Andersson
Hanifin-Tanev

with Valimaki and Kylington playing on the left side of the 3rd pairing... barring a Kylington trade.

 

[Rubi]

Can Andersson handle those minutes?

Absolutely. During the regular season last year he averaged approximately 20 minutes TOI. During the playoffs he averaged 21-1/2 minutes.

 

[Iggys Dome]

As a Canucks fan. I think he would look better beside someone fast exciting the zone. Maybe a Hanifin? can eat up minutes and be a good defensive pair?

Hanifin is anything but fast haha. Good skater but no acceleration at all.

He sounds like a better Hamonic, I have liked what I’ve seen from him whenever we play the Canucks though. Hope he stays healthy. I think we’re gonna need to add a d man to shore up depth ( Stecher?) considering Tanevs injury history.

 

[Rowlet]

I'm gonna miss Tanev, take care of him! He needs new teeth. Put him with someone who can skate and let him work his magic. He's what let Hughes go off on some... offensive zone adventures this season, very similar to how Willie Mitchell and Dan Hamhuis babysat the blue line when Kevin Bieksa forgot how to play defense.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

Someone tell me how I should feel about this.

Sad and angry. Too expensive for too many years.

 

[Fig]

IMO, another way to consider it, I think tanev is injury prone in the same way Klefbom is. Not enough talent on the back end and broke the guys exceeding the weight limit several times over trying to carry the D corpse of their teams for many years. I think Tanev will be reasonably fine health wise in Calgary with more help and load distribution.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Giordano? Lol

I mean right now, my protection list would be:

FWD: Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm, Tkachuk, than 3/4 of Backlund, Bennett, Mangiapane, Dube

Defense: Hanifin, Andersson, one of Giordano/Kylington

I doubt Seattle is taking a big contract off our hands. I'd take a chance on one of Bennett/Mangiapane/Dube

Not if we protect all 3 and expose Backlund which I could totally see happening. I think if left open Seattle cant ignore him, the available centers next year will be very thin.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Just to play Devil's advocate, what kind of correlation is there between "not playing with Tanev" and "not playing against top lines?"

I would also like to know if this takes into account Hughes powerplay time. His For stats without Tanev would skyrocket if its included

 

[Flamesfan62]

I don't like this at all.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

As a Canucks fan. I think he would look better beside someone fast exciting the zone. Maybe a Hanifin? can eat up minutes and be a good defensive pair?

This year, yeah he will probably be paired with Hanifin or Gio most of the season (barring an injury ofc). In 21/22 I would expect his main partner to be Valimaki, hes basically our version of Hughes and could have similar potential. Really hard to tell when hes out for a year though, prior to the injury (and Hughes break out yearl they were considered neck and neck.

 

[geebaan]

Everyone in here complaining is gonna watch this guy and realize how wrong they are about him. He was a wonderful partner and mentor to Hughes, and when not completely over worked or playing with trash he’s a great defenseman. The trick for him is just staying healthy.

 

[Body Checker]

With Valimaki getting games in now my take is we will have five top 4 dmen to start next season.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

I had no problem with Markstrom leaving if he wanted 6x6 with an NMC. That's his price? Okay, Marky. Thanks for your service, over to Demko.

But this one really hurts. Tanev is (or was...) the best defensive defenseman the Canucks had by a mile. MS already mentioned the analytics split regarding Hughes. A huge part of Tanev and Edler's fragility is because they were badly overworked and over-relied upon. Until Hughes showed up, those two were the only 2 dmen the team had who could reliably play defense, and they were both absolutely played into the ground for years. They were the default top pair on both offense and defense. Once Hughes actually gave them another option and took some of the insane pressure off, suddenly Tanev stayed healthy and had his best year in a long time. Yeah, play the guy 30-35 minutes a night feeding him the toughest matchups game after game, and he'll wear down. Give him second pairing minutes and don't expect him to constantly save everyone else's bacon? He'll be well worth the acquisition. I'd have signed him in Vancouver for that contract in a second. And that's not just out of fondness for his years of service here.

Dammit.

 

[cheechoo]

I think opposing fans comments are the best way to determine a signing more than anything. Canucks fans seem devastated, that's a good thing. Tanev is a rock and he's not extremely old or signed for crazy term. His durability is a problem, but when he's in he provides something unlike any Flames defenseman in quite some time. Just a pure shutdown force. We don't have this archetype of defender on the team right now. I really like this group of Giordano, Valimaki, Hanifin, Andersson, Tanev and Kylington. Four of them being 23 or younger.

I think BT probably assumed Brodie would be coming back, and when he decided to go to Toronto instead he pounced on Tanev right away and i'm not mad at it.

 

[crackdown44]

@crackdown44 Boston Pizza still on?