Value of: Chris Kreider

[Falco Lombardi]

Me too! But I don't see us getting him without giving up a 1st, and I just hate the very idea of a 1st for a rental.

I mean.... we’ve traded like 6 firsts since 2013 and it’s worked out. I’m not totally opposed in the right circumstances.

Ky


Kyrou and the Blues 2020 2nd

It’s certainly more attractive than having to go this route because we’re trying to hold on to a pick likely 20th or lower.

 

[remer]

Yeah 1st + Heinen + prospect for Kreider at 50% seems like the basis for a deal, with much wrangling over the prospect. Of course Bruins would shop around elsewhere. Is Kreider worth that much more than Toffoli, for instance.

Well let's put things into perspective:
Last year at the deadline: Ottawa traded a signed Mark Stone and Tobias Lindberg to Vegas for defenseman Erik Brannstrom, center Oscar Lindberg and a 2020 second-round pick.
So, I think the ask on Kreider is a bit high.

 

[bl02]

Well let's put things into perspective:
Last year at the deadline: Ottawa traded a signed Mark Stone and Tobias Lindberg to Vegas for defenseman Erik Brannstrom, center Oscar Lindberg and a 2020 second-round pick.
So, I think the ask on Kreider is a bit high.

true and mark stone is a much better player but also the Rangers got much more than anyone thought they would for Nash and Hayes (I feel two players kreider would have much more impact than come playoff time albeit Hayes is a center which some people value more).

 

[SML2]

Every year the market sets differently based on availability at position, who is contending, how many sellers, etc. Whatever someone was dealt for last year isn't really connected to the next season.

 

[Trxjw]

Well let's put things into perspective:
Last year at the deadline: Ottawa traded a signed Mark Stone and Tobias Lindberg to Vegas for defenseman Erik Brannstrom, center Oscar Lindberg and a 2020 second-round pick.
So, I think the ask on Kreider is a bit high.

Brannstrom, at the time of that trade, was considered a top-25 prospect by many people. Nothing in that proposed package referenced earlier comes close to that sort of value. What should be a very late first, likely a bottom-six F prospect, and a guy who is more of a cap-offset than value add is hardly an outlandish ask for someone who is likely to be the most sought after rental on the market.

 

[Hookslide]

Well let's put things into perspective:
Last year at the deadline: Ottawa traded a signed Mark Stone and Tobias Lindberg to Vegas for defenseman Erik Brannstrom, center Oscar Lindberg and a 2020 second-round pick.
So, I think the ask on Kreider is a bit high.

Bruins should not trade a first for a rental...........

 

[bl02]

Bruins should not trade a first for a rental...........

If it helps put them over the top this year (and it definitely could) why not? It's not like they are very far off from competing for and winning the cup this year.

 

[Ken Lund]

If it helps put them over the top this year (and it definitely could) why not? It's not like they are very far off from competing for and winning the cup this year.

That's why these conditions become such a big thing. If your a contending team you might not want to pay a 1st for a rental or to just make the playoffs and get knocked out right away, but with the resigning condition its not a first for a rental. And if the condition is winning the Cup, I'd trade a 1st for a Cup any day.

 

[5cotland]

That's why these conditions become such a big thing. If your a contending team you might not want to pay a 1st for a rental or to just make the playoffs and get knocked out right away, but with the resigning condition its not a first for a rental. And if the condition is winning the Cup, I'd trade a 1st for a Cup any day.

NYR will not settle for less than a guaranteed first rounder I dont think.

Kreider is 100% worthy of a guaranteed first plus prospect at minimum. There may be a conditional pick added like a 4th that becomes a 3rd on reaching SCF or a 5th that becomes a 1st if he re-signs etc.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

People need to realize that blue chip prospects like Brännström have more value than a 1st round pick.

 

[xjoeyc23x]

People need to realize that blue chip prospects like Brännström have more value than a 1st round pick.

Brannstrom is what you hope your 1st rounder turns into.

 

[FourRings]

NYR will not settle for less than a guaranteed first rounder I dont think.

Kreider is 100% worthy of a guaranteed first plus prospect at minimum. There may be a conditional pick added like a 4th that becomes a 3rd on reaching SCF or a 5th that becomes a 1st if he re-signs etc.

So two 1sts and a prospect for Kreider?

 

[5cotland]

So two 1sts and a prospect for Kreider?

Re-signed as a condition.

As a rental, hell no.

 

[BPD]

People need to realize that blue chip prospects like Brännström have more value than a 1st round pick.

Hard to say, because they just don't get traded that often.

Who was the last blue chipper traded before Brannstrom? Forsberg? Duclair? Probably Sergachev?

 

[5cotland]

Hard to say, because they just don't get traded that often.

Who was the last blue chipper traded before Brannstrom? Forsberg? Duclair? Probably Sergachev?

Lol Duclair was NEVER a blue chip prospect.

Would you class Suzuki or Jokiharju as bkue chip prospects because they were traded within last couple of seasons.

 

[5cotland]

Brannstrom is what you hope your 1st rounder turns into.

Hard to hope for that when your rental 1st rounder will be mid/late 20s

 

[Mike Liut]

Ky


Kyrou and the Blues 2020 2nd

Replace Kyrou with Sanford

 

[5cotland]

Replace Kyrou with Sanford

Then replace the 2nd with a 1st.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Replace Kyrou with Sanford

Sanford big and soft just want fans want. Lmfao Rather get ivan barbashev or Klim Kostin

 

[Mike Liut]

Sanford big and soft just want fans want. Lmfao Rather get ivan barbashev or Klim Kostin

You won’t get either for a rental

 

[Mike Liut]

Then replace the 2nd with a 1st.

That is possible.

 

[Dbrownss]

Sanford big and soft just want fans want. Lmfao Rather get ivan barbashev or Klim Kostin

I don't see the Blues moving Barbashev. He just has that "it" factor for the Blues. I dont see Kostin being moved either. Especially for a rental.

I wouldn't close the door on Sanford. As a Blues fan I wont be sad to see him go, BUT he has show flashes of a very good player. He has shown to play big boy hockey who can score. Very streaky. He goes from looking like a top 6 guy to you can't wait for him to eat popcorn in the press box.


I dont see Army going past Sanford+ if he brings someone in.

 

[landeskog11]

kreider seems perfect to help flames out of their funk, sam bennett and pick for kreider

 

[5cotland]

kreider seems perfect to help flames out of their funk, sam bennett and pick for kreider

Rangers decline. Bennett is not a great add. Unless its with a 1st and prospect on top.

 

[Vitto79]

kreider seems perfect to help flames out of their funk, sam bennett and pick for kreider

If that’s a 1st and Bennett I’d be fine w that

Similar to the Hayes return