CCHL2 2015/16 Season

[Maple Leaf Forever]

nothing against this particular player as this was the practice before where overage kids played one more yr at junior B after finishing junior A.

However, with the new model, does this make sense? isn't supposed to be a "development ladder"...U18, CCHL2,and then CCHL.....why would you allow older players playing CCHL2 than will be allowed playing in the CCHL?

You obvisiously haven't watched much Junior B.....21 year olds are usually the best players on the team...from a paying fan perspective it would be very foolish to cut out 21 year olds.From a developement stand point how many 19 or 20 year olds playing in CJHL2 are realistically goin to move up to the CJ?...I feel strongly that it is great to have some kids get to play another year.Most cjhl2 owners know the importance on having strong 21 year olds.

 

[newfan]

You obvisiously haven't watched much Junior B.....21 year olds are usually the best players on the team...from a paying fan perspective it would be very foolish to cut out 21 year olds.From a developement stand point how many 19 or 20 year olds playing in CJHL2 are realistically goin to move up to the CJ?...I feel strongly that it is great to have some kids get to play another year.Most cjhl2 owners know the importance on having strong 21 year olds.

I have watched plenty of Junior B hockey thank you very much. I don't think you understand my point.

A 21 yr old should be the best player on the team, especially if he had come from the CJ.

My point is the landscape has changed with all of the restructuring (and by the way I am not a supporter of this....I liked the autonomy the Junior B previously had). The new vision has it being a development ladder. In that scenario it doesn't make sense for 21 yr olds allowed to play.

 

[valleydude]

I have watched plenty of Junior B hockey thank you very much. I don't think you understand my point.

A 21 yr old should be the best player on the team, especially if he had come from the CJ.

My point is the landscape has changed with all of the restructuring (and by the way I am not a supporter of this....I liked the autonomy the Junior B previously had). The new vision has it being a development ladder. In that scenario it doesn't make sense for 21 yr olds allowed to play.

I agree with both of you, but what you are talking about is two different leagues, and in this case the CCHL is talkiing out of both sides of their mouth.

If you want the best hockey product allowed under the rules , use 21 year olds.

If you want a development league, don't allow 20 or 21 year olds.

Why anyone thinks it is good development, both hockey or life for a 16 year old to play with a 21 year old is beyond me.

The CCHL had a chance to fix this with their ownership of U18 but they have not and once again are just chasing $$$'s.

 

[Rangersfan21]

I agree with both of you, but what you are talking about is two different leagues, and in this case the CCHL is talkiing out of both sides of their mouth.

If you want the best hockey product allowed under the rules , use 21 year olds.

If you want a development league, don't allow 20 or 21 year olds.

Why anyone thinks it is good development, both hockey or life for a 16 year old to play with a 21 year old is beyond me.

The CCHL had a chance to fix this with their ownership of U18 but they have not and once again are just chasing $$$'s.

I tend to diasagree, It is beneficial for 16 year olds to play with stronger 20 year olds in Jr.B. It helps them to adjust to the size and strength of older players at a much slower pace than in Jr.A

 

[BadgerKnight]

Website & Showcase Date

The CCHL2 Pointstreak site is up.
http://www.cchl2.pointstreaksites.com/view/cchl2
Additionally, the CCHL2's Showcase is to be in Perth the weekend of Sept. 11-13.

 

[upinarms]

I agree with both of you, but what you are talking about is two different leagues, and in this case the CCHL is talkiing out of both sides of their mouth.

If you want the best hockey product allowed under the rules , use 21 year olds.

If you want a development league, don't allow 20 or 21 year olds.

Why anyone thinks it is good development, both hockey or life for a 16 year old to play with a 21 year old is beyond me.

The CCHL had a chance to fix this with their ownership of U18 but they have not and once again are just chasing $$$'s.

This ( CCHL2 ) was originally called a "development" league, but that was before U18 was approved. I suspect CCHL2 will carry on as a JR B league and the U18 will be the development league. Sad part is you can develop as many local kids as you want at the U18 level, but if a player from Toronto or wherever has developed a little better, he will be in CCHL first. Only controversy that will happen is a 16 or 17 year old who wants to play JR B (CCHL2) but the JR A team he belongs to wants him to play U18. I can only imagine the BS that will be fed some of these players.

 

[newfan]

This ( CCHL2 ) was originally called a "development" league, but that was before U18 was approved. I suspect CCHL2 will carry on as a JR B league and the U18 will be the development league. Sad part is you can develop as many local kids as you want at the U18 level, but if a player from Toronto or wherever has developed a little better, he will be in CCHL first. Only controversy that will happen is a 16 or 17 year old who wants to play JR B (CCHL2) but the JR A team he belongs to wants him to play U18. I can only imagine the BS that will be fed some of these players.[/QUOTE

The CCHL used to be considered a developmental league (aren't they all really?)

It seems in the last few years though that the league now sees itself as competition to the OHL rather than a feeder league. There used to be more younger players than we see today. Many of the rosters are now full of 19-20 yr olds.

 

[hawkeye guy]

Hawks U 18 Staff

Twitter announcement from Hawks GM Ian Henderson saying U 18 staff is Dave Leger Head Coach, Assistants Mario Dupuis and Shawn Anderson, Trainer Bruce Best and Goalie Coach Eric Salvail.
That's quite the staff for a AAA team.

 

[newfan]

Twitter announcement from Hawks GM Ian Henderson saying U 18 staff is Dave Leger Head Coach, Assistants Mario Dupuis and Shawn Anderson, Trainer Bruce Best and Goalie Coach Eric Salvail.
That's quite the staff for a AAA team.

^yes it is!

anymore U18 announcements of late?

 

[TJay]

Does anyone if the CCHL2 will still have the same CCM equipment sponsorship as the CCHL?

 

[Easyrider]

Does anyone know if the CCHL2 has the same protected list as the EOJHL did?

 

[Lazarrr]

Does anyone know if the CCHL2 has the same protected list as the EOJHL did?

Nope.

Each team gets 5 protects instead of the 10 or 12 they had last season.

A new rule is that teams can't protect players that were drafted by a CCHL team. Those players are free agents.

You can also protect players not in your area. Looking at the list now, Athens protected a Kanata and a Nepean kid.

 

[newfan]

Nope.

Each team gets 5 protects instead of the 10 or 12 they had last season.

A new rule is that teams can't protect players that were drafted by a CCHL team. Those players are free agents.

You can also protect players not in your area. Looking at the list now, Athens protected a Kanata and a Nepean kid.

do you have a link for the list of protects?

 

[TheLastShift]

Does anyone know if the CCHL2 has the same protected list as the EOJHL did?

5 now instead of 12
Players may not be protected by a CCHL1 club
Players had to be registered with HEO last season
Players who are protected by CCHL1 or did not play in HEO last season are Free Agents
'98 and '99 birth years are Free Agents

Protects awarded to closest team who protected them.

 

[Easyrider]

If players drafted by CCHL teams are free agents within CCHL2, how does this work with the affiliation agreements between tier 1 & 2 teams?

 

[valleydude]

If players drafted by CCHL teams are free agents within CCHL2, how does this work with the affiliation agreements between tier 1 & 2 teams?

I am sure this was driven by the Tier 1 teams. This way, any players they own will be told what Tier 2 team they are playing for.

 

[upinarms]

I am sure this was driven by the Tier 1 teams. This way, any players they own will be told what Tier 2 team they are playing for.

What about a player they own that played JR B last season and is being sent back to CCHL2 this season.

 

[TheLastShift]

What about a player they own that played JR B last season and is being sent back to CCHL2 this season.

If a player was carded with a Jr B club last season and was on that teams active roster after the Jan 10 roster freeze he is still that Junior B teams property.

 

[eyeinthesky]

it looks like some of the teams don't have an affiliation.i sey it looks that way,and if that is true,how does this work?if this is true,where would be the competitive balance?it would seem those teams would have an awful difficult time in this new cchl2.

 

[Stittsvillain]

The 20 and 21 year olds have always been the best players in jr b. The cchl2 won't get these players from cchl1. No affiliation no problem. These teams will kick ass on the ice.

 

[valleydude]

The 20 and 21 year olds have always been the best players in jr b. The cchl2 won't get these players from cchl1. No affiliation no problem. These teams will kick ass on the ice.

Wow, for a "Stittsvillain" to say that is pretty funny. Your best player last year was a 16 year old ! And if wasn't for the deal they made to play the older brother he would have played in the east end.

 

[Lazarrr]

it looks like some of the teams don't have an affiliation.i sey it looks that way,and if that is true,how does this work?if this is true,where would be the competitive balance?it would seem those teams would have an awful difficult time in this new cchl2.

There are a few teams with direct affiliation with Jr A teams like Westport and Smith Falls.

But a lot of teams have affiliation with a few teams. It's really for the best of the player. Is Brockville going to make a 17 year old kid from Nepean play for the Tikis? Probably not, he'll likely play where it's more convenient. Just like the Nepean Raiders won't send a kid from Prescott to Ottawa West.

 

[TradedTwice]

List

do you have a link for the list of protects?

team player name 2014-15 team dob
alexandria jerry cole ottawa sens aaa 1997-04-09
alexandria justin cyr east ontario wild aaa 1997-02-11
alexandria jacob marley vankleek hill jr c 02/27/1996
alexandria aiden cannell cumberland aa midget 01/31/1997
alexandria pass

arnprior braden zvonarich uov aces aa 1997-09-01
arnprior jonathan ready uov aces aa 1997-01-05
arnprior kevin burchat uov aces aa 02/25/1997
arnprior mitchell sennett uov aces aa 1997-12-12
arnprior danny mcgrath uov aces aa 1997-12-03

athens nathan gonyou athens mig rep b 1997-10-08
athens matthew cowley ottawa 67's aa 11/16/1997
athens shane rankin kanata mid rep b 04/29/1997
athens carter hertner ottawa sens aaa 1997-08-06
athens brennan revell ottawa silver seven aa 1997-04-06

brockville tyler mcfayden brockville braves rep b 1997-06-07
brockville andrew evans brockville braves rep b 1997-11-04
brockville devon burns brockville braves rep b 07/27/1997
brockville casey abrams brockville braves rep b 1997-04-02
brockville lee spurgeon ottawa valley titans aaa 1997-02-06

casselman matthew lapointe cumberland jr c 05/26/1997
casselman riley sauve vankleek hill jr c 1996-04-02
casselman mandel jean-louis st-isidore jr c 1996-05-08
casselman nathan bols embrum jr c 1996-04-06
casselman pascal larocque st-isidore jr c 01/19/1996

char-lan justin rutley north dundas rockets jr c 12/31/1994
char-lan brendan vipond char-lan rebels rep b 06/20/1997
char-lan aodin macdonell char-lan rebels rep b 07/29/1997
char-lan pass
char-lan pass


clarence michel beauchamp clarence mig b rep 1997-11-06
clarence raphael payant clarence mig b rep 1997-12-05
clarence suraj bali east ontario wild aaa 01/26/1997
clarence matthew gorman cumberland jr c 12/17/1997
clarence tyler dopelhamer vankleek hill jr c 05/13/1997

metcalfe jeremy barrie gloucester aa midget 1997-10-06
metcalfe justin gagnon cyclones aaa midget 1997-08-02
metcalfe trent pora cyclones aaa midget 06/16/1997
metcalfe mark belanger cyclones aaa midget 03/14/1997
metcalfe ryan lafranchise cumberland aa midget 1997-02-07

ottawa owen semanyk ottawa 67's aaa 12/31/1997
ottawa jacob rector gloucester rangers aa 1997-01-03
ottawa coleman emery ottawa sting aa 1997-06-08
ottawa jacques lariviere cumberland mig rep b 1997-03-03
ottawa pass

ottawa west matthew avery ottawa senators aaa 1997-02-03
ottawa west stefano di rosa nepean aa 01/18/1997
ottawa west graeme mcgill ottawa sting aa 03/20/1997
ottawa west connor roth nepean aa 10/15/1997
ottawa west john parsons nepean aa 1997-10-05

perth martin treffers perth midget rep b 12/17/1997
perth pass
perth pass
perth pass
perth pass

prescott cody dietschweiler south grenville mig b rep 08/24/1997
prescott bradley douesnard south grenville mig b rep 1997-01-10
prescott payden selleck south grenville mig b rep 06/14/1997
prescott devan miller south grenville mig b rep 10/15/1997
prescott taylor prosser south grenville mig b rep 1997-01-11

renfrew austin scheuneman renfrew mig b rep 04/24/1997
renfrew carson barber renfrew mig b rep 05/28/1997
renfrew jerim ryan deep river mig b rep 09/22/1997
renfrew taylor campbell stittsville rams mig rep b 1997-12-04
renfrew pass

stittsville bradley odam stittsville mig b rep 06/20/1997
stittsville joseph zappavigna nepean aa 1997-11-02
stittsville nick sourges nepean aa 01/31/1997
stittsville connor o'driscoll manotick mig b rep 1997-10-04
stittsville tyler watungwa ottawa valley titans aaa 07/28/1997

westport pass
westport pass
westport pass
westport pass
westport pass

winchester pass
winchester pass
winchester pass
winchester pass
winchester pass

 

[scribeEOJHL]

Wonder how much each of the 16 teams are charging their players this season in the CCHL2. The maximum is pegged at $2,500 (plus more for equipment). Some will want the max while others are looking for half that amount, I'm hearing. It will be quite a culture shock for a lot of the returning players who signed for a small fraction of that amount in 2014-15. In fact, there were a number of teams that allowed all their kids to skate for nothing. For university guys now, the $2,500 fee could be the tipping point on whether they play hockey or not.

 

[upinarms]

If they are good enough, they will find a place to play.