Pre-Game Talk: CarBuf

tarheelhockey

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The hysterics over Peters system and it limiting offense have reached peak absurdity. The Hurricanes generate the 4th most high danger scoring chances per game of any team in the league. They also are 7th in the league in 5 on 5 goals scored. That’s when Peters system is actually implemented, 5 on 5. The special teams have sucked out loud this year, and that’s why the record isn’t where it should be.

Edit: Rankkngs are based on per game numbers.

Yeah I’m not sure how anyone could watch the game last night and come away with “we suck offensively”. We absolutely dominated the Islanders in their own zone, and scored nice goals as a result.

A lack of special teams and mediocre goaltending will sink any team. This is how #1 seeds lose in the first round. Except for us it’s not a bad handful of games, it’s been 6 weeks now.
 

Joe McGrath

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As much as I said the special teams haven’t been good, the team is even on special teams this year because they take no penalties. 8 PPG for 8 against. 1 SH for 1 against.

37 for 32 against 5v5, +5

2 ENG for 3 against, 2 6v5 against (cost them 1 point), 1 6v5 for (stole 1 point).

Once again, can’t score a goal or make a save in OT and that stings big time. 0-2 it OT and 1-2 in SO.
 

RodTheBawd

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This is why I tend to lean toward Peters not being the problem. I certainly don't think you need to be making a coaching change midseason. That just reeks of panic. I think we have to admit that this team, as constructed, may just not be good enough yet. If you look at the depth chart as an opposing coach, are you really that intimidated by too many players? The forwards especially. Aho, Skinner, Staal, Teravainen, and Lindholm to an extent all bring something to the table, but what about Rask? In terms of shot generation, he's one of the worst on the team. In terms of suppression, he's one of the worst on the team. Both in the context of high danger and overall chances. He's not scoring. Individually, he's not even generating many chances off his own stick. Derek Ryan isn't much better. That's two of the top three centers, leaving Jordan Staal to shoulder a heavy burden. He's been solid this year, but he's not a guy you want everything to ride on.

Going into the season, we knew center was going to be an issue if it wasn't addressed. It hasn't been, and it is. A lot was hinging on Rask continuing to develop, and he's been really disappointing.

Bang on, mate. Prior to the season I thought Rask + 4th for RNH would get it done, make it Rask + 2nd + McLovin. Still probably a no from EDM, but somethings gotta give. We aren't getting a 1C, might as well improve our cluster of borderline 2C/3Cs.
 

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This is why I tend to lean toward Peters not being the problem. I certainly don't think you need to be making a coaching change midseason. That just reeks of panic. I think we have to admit that this team, as constructed, may just not be good enough yet. If you look at the depth chart as an opposing coach, are you really that intimidated by too many players? The forwards especially. Aho, Skinner, Staal, Teravainen, and Lindholm to an extent all bring something to the table, but what about Rask? In terms of shot generation, he's one of the worst on the team. In terms of suppression, he's one of the worst on the team. Both in the context of high danger and overall chances. He's not scoring. Individually, he's not even generating many chances off his own stick. Derek Ryan isn't much better. That's two of the top three centers, leaving Jordan Staal to shoulder a heavy burden. He's been solid this year, but he's not a guy you want everything to ride on.

Going into the season, we knew center was going to be an issue if it wasn't addressed. It hasn't been, and it is. A lot was hinging on Rask continuing to develop, and he's been really disappointing.

Yep, center depth was a problem before it was a given that Rask would have zero impact on the game (positive or negative).

Coaching is what we, as fans, like to latch onto as the "problem" because it's an easy problem to solve. Simply fire the coach and suddenly everything is as it should be.

Yeah I’m not sure how anyone could watch the game last night and come away with “we suck offensively”. We absolutely dominated the Islanders in their own zone, and scored nice goals as a result.
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The go-ahead goal for the Isle was after 3-4 straight shifts, 4+ minutes, of the Hurricanes playing keep away in the Isle zone.

I know it sucks that the Isle then came down and scored almost immediately, but that's not an outcome of that particular sequence 9 times out 10. Such is the game of hockey.
 

Svechhammer

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We need a 1C that can take the load off of Staal and center for Skinner. Someone to replace Rask.
The fact those 2 statements are in the same comment and in a serious tone is all you need to know about what ails the Hurricanes. We knew 1-C was a problem before the season, it wasn't addressed, and its only gotten worse with Rask turning to poo.
 
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The Faulker 27

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This is why I tend to lean toward Peters not being the problem. I certainly don't think you need to be making a coaching change midseason. That just reeks of panic. I think we have to admit that this team, as constructed, may just not be good enough yet. If you look at the depth chart as an opposing coach, are you really that intimidated by too many players? The forwards especially. Aho, Skinner, Staal, Teravainen, and Lindholm to an extent all bring something to the table, but what about Rask? In terms of shot generation, he's one of the worst on the team. In terms of suppression, he's one of the worst on the team. Both in the context of high danger and overall chances. He's not scoring. Individually, he's not even generating many chances off his own stick. Derek Ryan isn't much better. That's two of the top three centers, leaving Jordan Staal to shoulder a heavy burden. He's been solid this year, but he's not a guy you want everything to ride on.

Going into the season, we knew center was going to be an issue if it wasn't addressed. It hasn't been, and it is. A lot was hinging on Rask continuing to develop, and he's been really disappointing.

Rask has been atrocious. I'm speechless at the level of suck that dude has reached. Faulk, our top offensive defenseman has 1 goal in 17 games, and 3 points. As far as offensive problems, If I was pointing any fingers it would be at those 2. On the other hand, Derek Ryan is doing what has been asked of him, and he's at least playing up to his skill level (20/40 pts). Not bad for a guy that had a slim chance even making it to this level. You can blame him, but that's more on Francis for not putting anything better on the ice. Francis has constructed a team around defense and it's showing. Only problem there is the defensive lapses we're seeing as well. As in our defense isn't bailing us out either. We still have plenty of time to climb the mountain, but the importance of consistency will start to compound every week.
 

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cptjeff

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I would take 2nd/3rd line C trade at this point. I would take a chance on Wallmark even instead of Rask, play him on the wing.

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I'm still staggered that Lindholm and Aho haven't been given tryouts in Rask's spot. It might not be ideal, but either of them would be far better than Rask, and Rask's issues are easier to isolate when on the wing.
 

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