Confirmed Signing with Link: [CAR] F Jordan Staal signs extension with the Hurricanes (4 years, $2.9M AAV)

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

I am thinking this is excellent for a defensive monster whose two year even strength scoring is in the Eriksson Ek range. Oh wait, Lafrienere, Granlund and Kessel are in that range too. Still think this is fine.

 

[Wolfpuck]

2.9 is good for what Jordo brings to the team. 4 years is…fine.

 

[SEALBound]

The agents representing the new group of free agents will point to it increasing as well and want that piece of the pie.

Which is why it's nice for Carolina to get Staal extended now (if they truly did want to keep him).

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Well that was super obvious, of course he was going to be re-signing with them.

 

[Fire Sweeney]

No wonder why hurdles are being cleared. 4 years, 3M for a 40 year old 4th liner ? Staal would be insane not to take that and run to the bank.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

You could do a lot worse then staal as your 3c or 4c guy still has gas in the tank and will kill penalties and match up against top lines it’s not horrible

He probably shouldnt be matching up with top players much longer..

 

[BKarchitect]

No wonder why hurdles are being cleared. 4 years, 3M for a 40 year old 4th liner ? Staal would be insane not to take that and run to the bank.

I mean great job being factually incorrect on…everything. But cool, your outrage is noted.

 

[SundherDome]

Which is why it's nice for Carolina to get Staal extended now (if they truly did want to keep him).

Correct, nothing wrong with the deal. I also wasn't calling you out specifically, I just see a lot of "cap is going way up" posts. While it may go up, so will the salaries of pending fa/rfa so in essence overpaying is still, not prudent.

 

[Hurricane Hugo]

I love Staal but I hate this. 4 years is absolutely ridiculous. 2 years would’ve been the absolute max that would be reasonable.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

The cap hit isn’t bad, the term is.

 

[mouser]

He's 34 now, but turning 35 in September. He'll be past 39 at the end of that deal. Ouch

Might want to double check your math.

 

[EXTRAS]

They took advantage of him being 34 and 10 months old and not 35. They will front load the deal and he will retire after 2 years, if he gets bad. Essentially paying him like 4.5m cash for each of 2 years, and getting a 2.9m cap.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

3 million is peanuts

 

[Lance Link]

Seems like a dumb deal to me. Too much term.

That's what I thought about Jack Campbell at $5M for four more years.

 

[FlameChampion]

That's what I thought about Jack Campbell at $5M for four more years.

Agreed

 

[Lempo]

They took advantage of him being 34 and 10 months old and not 35. They will front load the deal and he will retire after 2 years, if he gets bad. Essentially paying him like 4.5m cash for each of 2 years, and getting a 2.9m cap.

I'm not at all sure they will frontload it, especially if it's full NMC. The organization is somewhat frugal with the actual money and not in habit of giving downpayments.

 

[Justicebork]

This contract is fine. If you look at our players and circle this as the crappy one its a good sign. It'll be 3% of the cap at term.

Better 3x4 than 4x3.

 

[EXTRAS]

I'm not at all sure they will frontload it, especially if it's full NMC. The organization is somewhat frugal with the actual money and not in habit of giving downpayments.

The idea is they know he's probably worth 3.5-4m so they pay him that in actual cash per season, but because he's retiring they don't pay any of the cash that is remaining in the last 2 seasons. It's not a down-payment, it's legal cap circumvention.

 

[Lempo]

The idea is they know he's probably worth 3.5-4m so they pay him that in actual cash per season, but because he's retiring they don't pay any of the cash that is remaining in the last 2 seasons. It's not a down-payment, it's legal cap circumvention.

Yes, I got the idea, I should have been more clear about that. I'm just not thinking that the plan is to have him retire before the scheduled expiration and I'm expecting that the salary structure of the contract will back me up on that.

 

[DrDangles]

He'll be worth more than 2.9 for the next two seasons, maybe longer; and with the cap rising 2.9m is pretty inconsequential after that.

I don't really get the hate here.

 

[mouser]

They took advantage of him being 34 and 10 months old and not 35. They will front load the deal and he will retire after 2 years, if he gets bad. Essentially paying him like 4.5m cash for each of 2 years, and getting a 2.9m cap.

And yet we never see players do that. The number of players who retired under contract in the nearly two decades of the salary cap era is in the single digits. Any many of them like Datsyuk did so to play overseas on a new contract.

 

[Oddbob]

Why are they giving a 35 year old before the season begins a 4 year deal?

 

[TheOllieC]

4 years is obviously generous term for the Captain but 2.9m is nothing. Too many people are acting as if it’s 2013 it seems.

 

[mouser]

They took advantage of him being 34 and 10 months old and not 35. They will front load the deal and he will retire after 2 years, if he gets bad. Essentially paying him like 4.5m cash for each of 2 years, and getting a 2.9m cap.

My rough napkin math says the most Carolina can front load the contract is $7m total over the first two years:

4x$2.9m = $11.6m total
year 1: $3.8m
year 2: $3.2m
year 3: $2.3m
year 4: $2.3m

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

He'll be worth more than 2.9 for the next two seasons

He could start playing like hot garbage on day 1 of this contract. Eric Staal fell right off a cliff between 35 and 36 and it's not like that's rare.

It would maybe make more sense if the Canes hadn't also signed Kotkaniemi to that nonsensical deal, ostensibly to replace Staal next season.