Rumor: Capitals had discussed a three team deal for Mantha including Montreal's Armia, also discussed Mantha with Flyers and Sharks

[Wayfarer13]

I sort of think the 2,35 mills in cap space you save for next year is a little catch there. It should be worth a pick, id figure. So the positive is dumping the negative. And Mantha is net negative but still has the highest ceiling of the mentioned dudes, he hasnt been that terrible to start the season. You might get more than you bargained for

Edit. That being said, i dont mind entertaining a counter offer of some of our ’not top’ prospects instead of NAK.

The Habs have what? 8 and a half million coming off the cap with no large contracts coming up to sign this year. Then there is the cap going up and Price's LTIR to consider in the equation. It's not like Molsons is hurting for cash.

 

[Curufinwe]

Mantha + 2024 1st for Frost.

 

[jfhabs]

The Habs have what? 8 and a half million coming off the cap with no large contracts coming up to sign this year. Then there is the cap going up and Price's LTIR to consider in the equation. It's not like Molsons is hurting for cash.

Worst case scenario he just bumps up the price of a pint 21$

 

[Wayfarer13]

Worst case scenario he just bumps up the price of a pint 21$

If corporate Canada thought they could raise a price they will then blame the janitor

 

[Scintillating10]

Armia actually playing decent since being recalled. Maybe a trip to minors woke him up

 

[Captain97]

Armia actually playing decent since being recalled. Maybe a trip to minors woke him up

Agreed, he is still over paid but watching him doesn't make me mad anymore. He looks like a solid bottom 6 forward again. Ideally on your 4th line but could probably handle 3rd line minutes.

 

[Habssince89]

Armia is very useful for a contending team because he's fantastic at maintaining possession and eating the clock to close out wins.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Armia is very useful for a contending team because he's fantastic at maintaining possession and eating the clock to close out wins.

Not at his cap hit

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

What's the deal with Strome? Is he sticking around?

He’s been better than we expected or hoped for. He was arguably the team MVP last year behind Ovechkin. He looks like an ideal 2C right now or maybe a low-end 1C. Pretty crazy the Caps got him for nothing and now have him on a great contract.

 

[jfhabs]

Not at his cap hit

Yeah he's paid too much for that. Maybe at 50% retained, but then I'm not sure he'd even bring back something decent enough for us to consider it.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Yeah he's paid too much for that. Maybe at 50% retained, but then I'm not sure he'd even bring back something decent enough for us to consider it.

Let the contract ride out if needed. He’s not hurting you.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Another french canadian underperforming

Exactly what Montreal needs

 

[Drake1588]

Mantha scenarios, proposals, and counters always make it seem like the best course is to ride it out and then he walks in a few months. Trading him for another bad contract, with another year on it, just seems foolish. Shrug.

It would be one thing if you gained someone of real value, or cap space, in any of these moves. But that's never the case. Plus, you're usually out a nice pick (2nd, 3rd).

 

[Habssince89]

Not at his cap hit

if he's going to a contender then salary is being retained for sure.

 

[Monsieur Miz]

A lazy bum for a lazy bum (but French)... let's goooooo!

 

[MrGone]

Anthony Mantha is pace for 30 goals and deserves the respect that comes with it.

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[HabsAddict]

I never paid attention to Mantha until the last time they played us.

Almost invisible. Almost.

About the ONLY thing going for this trade is one less year of Armia.

 

[SherVaughn30]

Mantha got hit in the side the head with a puck tonight, so he could be out for some time. I think this thread can be closed now.

 

[Hivemind]

Mantha + 2024 1st for Frost.

You aren't getting a Top 10 pick for Frost.

 

[Steeler23]

Mantha got hit in the side the head with a puck tonight, so he could be out for some time. I think this thread can be closed now.

OR maybe wait until there's any news before jumping to conclusion and "closing this thread"?

I doubt that Montreal, San Jose or Philly would trade for him because they want him to help them win. So, even if he's injured for a couple of weeks, I doubt it affect his value.

Actually, it might interest some teams even more. He wouldn't take someone else spot on the roster.

In Montreal case, trading Armia 2 years contract for 1 year of an injured Mantha is a +. Ylonen replace Armia in the lineup (or Harvey-Pinard when he's ready), and Mantha can heal. When Mantha is ready, he either swap with Pezzetta/Ylonen OR Montreal can easily have an injury or 2, so he can replace those players.

 

[trick9]

OR maybe wait until there's any news before jumping to conclusion and "closing this thread"?

I doubt that Montreal, San Jose or Philly would trade for him because they want him to help them win. So, even if he's injured for a couple of weeks, I doubt it affect his value.

Actually, it might interest some teams even more. He wouldn't take someone else spot on the roster.

In Montreal case, trading Armia 2 years contract for 1 year of an injured Mantha is a +. Ylonen replace Armia in the lineup (or Harvey-Pinard when he's ready), and Mantha can heal. When Mantha is ready, he either swap with Pezzetta/Ylonen OR Montreal can easily have an injury or 2, so he can replace those players.

Timing of this thread is really poor in general.

After this happened, Backstrom has already stepped away and with him unlikely to return, Capitals are no longer in need of cap space this season. Mantha also improved since and seem to have find a line where he fits.

The price that the Capitals were willing to pay to offload him was very low to begin with (which is why trade hasn't happened). It's propably even lower or nothing now.

 

[Curufinwe]

You aren't getting a Top 10 pick for Frost.

The pick would be top 10 protected, of course, and Washington would also be dumping $3.6m in cap.

 

[Steeler23]

The price that the Capitals were willing to pay to offload him was very low to begin with (which is why trade hasn't happened). It's propably even lower or nothing now.

I always assumed they didn't want to attach anything to him anyway. That's why they would look at someone like Armia, so they can do a "change of scenary" kind of trade. It could be Labanc/Hoffman/Duclair from SJ or a return from Garnet Hathaway from Philly.

 

[Kalopsia]

The pick would be top 10 protected, of course, and Washington would also be dumping $3.6m in cap.

They've already got plenty of cap room from Backstrom being on LTIR, I think it'll be something around 6M once Edmundson and Pacioretty come off IR and their replacements are sent down. Unless they've got plans to add a huge contract for some reason they've got no pressing need to dump Mantha.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Mantha got hit in the side the head with a puck tonight, so he could be out for some time. I think this thread can be closed now.

Was the puck ok?