Seravalli: Canucks getting calls on Tyler Myers, lots of league interest for Right Shot Dmen

[Breakers]

Chiarot get a 1st from a desperate GM. Myers dues not get a 1st, nor a 2nd, evennat50%.

Myers is not aD first physical player.

Myers and Chiarot were separated by 12 hits

 

[Surf Nutz]

Fair enough i feel the same for Rathbone. Kid is way too good for the AHL is explosive and has a wicked clapper. Only thinking along the lines of lefty for righty that are built the same and are tracking as smaller offensive guys.

If we didn't already have Hughes Rathbone would be completely untouchable and until we start to see what he settles into it would be tough to move him. I imagine you feel the same with Spence

Durzi would be a excellent target if he was available due to the glut of RD you guys have for us. He could marinate on a 3rd pair for awhile for us and Rathbone could do the same there while they both work on the defensive side of things

Not trading Durzi for Rathbone. The Kings cant afford to let any offensive NHL success go. If you want Grans he will be a solid NHL and may blossom on offense. The potential is there.

 

[Alluckks]

Canucks use of the media is so obvious and terrible lol

 

[Djp]

Myers and Chiarot were separated by 12 hits

Myers is much bigger size so the credit comes by accident

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Myers needs to be deployed properly to be useful..

He played so well this year in large part because of OEL. OEL was the general out there who basically deployed Myers. Myers said in an interview that he and OEL talk a lot more than most D-pairings and that it helped him a lot.

I take that to mean that OEL gave him a steady presence to play off of, while also telling him where to be/put the puck a lot of the time because OEL has really strong hockey sense, Myers does not, and Myers looked good this year.

So if you can put him with a smart, steady, communicative partner he may thrive. If you expect him to anchor a pairing, it becomes chaos.

He's good in the D-zone at breaking up the cycle but gives up the blueline far too easily unless coached out of it by his partner.

He has value, but if a team brings him in under the wrong scenario they will be bitterly disappointed.

With the right partner, he's a strong top 4.

 

[Three On Zero]

Myers had probably one of his best years in recent memory this season. He does well when he isn't relied on to "be the guy"

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

yeah--more planted stories from the nucks to try and start a bidding war. I am feeling sorry for the players who are being put through this

Poor multi millionaire pro athletes…

 

[RandV]

The Canucks don't need a RH defenceman? Are they overflowing with them?

Just because the Canucks have terrible RD depth doesn't mean they shouldn't move Myers if the chance is there. This is a problem left over by Benning and is up to new management to fix, whether you're starting with Myers/Schenn/Poolman or just Schenn/Poolman when it's that bad it doesn't matter, it needs to be fixed.

More importantly with Hughes being #1 LD, stuck with OEL longterm as #2 LD, and the team struggling with limited cap space to fix things, spending $6M on a #4 RD isn't the best fit. It will be difficult and likely not immediately possible but the best situation for the Canucks would be to take the $9.5M they're currently spending on RD and split it between 3 new RD's.

 

[Xirik]

Devils already have one RHD (Severson) who either does amazing things or has giant brain farts. Might be fun to have another of the same thing.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Must be zoos looking to replace their giraffes.

 

[Cogburn]

CBJ has tons of cap space and needs a RHD to play with Werenski, Myers might not be high on Jarmo's list but he should be on the list.

What's the offer, were the call to be yours?

 

[Chet Manley]

Just because the Canucks have terrible RD depth doesn't mean they shouldn't move Myers if the chance is there. This is a problem left over by Benning and is up to new management to fix, whether you're starting with Myers/Schenn/Poolman or just Schenn/Poolman when it's that bad it doesn't matter, it needs to be fixed.

More importantly with Hughes being #1 LD, stuck with OEL longterm as #2 LD, and the team struggling with limited cap space to fix things, spending $6M on a #4 RD isn't the best fit. It will be difficult and likely not immediately possible but the best situation for the Canucks would be to take the $9.5M they're currently spending on RD and split it between 3 new RD's.

It seems like a contradiction that he is using up too much cap space for a team with space and in need of RD yet he'll have positive trade value to one of the teams that fit his NTC. But I don't follow the Canucks closely enough to know what's up.

 

[Cogburn]

It seems like a contradiction that he is using up too much cap space for a team with space and in need of RD yet he'll have positive trade value to one of the teams that fit his NTC. But I don't follow the Canucks closely enough to know what's up.

His value ties in well with this one question:

Do you like to gamble?

Myers had his best season since he joined us 4 years ago, and has been a positive on ice asset for us. He is randomly, unpredictably and alternately very, very, very effective one play, then he ends up killing a promising rush with an ill advised pass or gives up a terrifying chance against us trying to carry the puck through traffic the next. If not for horrid, terrible asset management, I'd want him back for October and not really want to entertain offers for him. His past play was awful, with only momentary spikes of a good play. New coaching staff and partners have helped him elevate both the frequency and the quality of his good plays though.

His availability, despite his playing a position of need for us and bringing elements we don't otherwise have an ample supply of on the back end (speed, physicality, size, shot blocking), is based on most of his best assets are redundant with Hughes, Ekman-Larsson, Rathbone and Dermott (allegedly) on the team (passing, offensive play, puck control, powerplay). Had Benning not saddled us with OEL with both Hughes and Myers already on the team, I think more Canucks fans would have warmed to him after this season of play.

Moving Myers would mean we might be able to keep Miller, Horvat, Boeser and Garland on the front end though, and moving other big contract players is less likely. Petey and Hughes are nigh untouchable and earning their cap hits, OEL has a NMC that I don't think was voided when he waived to come to Vancouver, and lesser contracts like Pearson, Poolman or Dickinson would take multiple moves, and in some cases likely assets, to move. Myers would be the closest thing to an odd man out then, which is why I think media is speculating on his departure.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I think Myers at 50% would have a pretty big market. Myers at full freight less so, there might be a buyer for 2x 3rd, maybe a 2nd. If they accept a 3rd, or 3rd + 4th he'd easily be moved.

 

[Gstank]

Myers for Mcdavid. I dont think Myers get moved unless we acquire 2 more RH D one of them being a top #3 RHD. Myers is a decent #4 who can play bigger minutes if injuries hit, but shouldnt be playing those minutes regularly. You only move him if you can get an upgrade on him

 

[kylbaz]

"Hello, we're interested in Myers, we're willing to give you...."

"Done!"

 

[Three On Zero]

Myers for Mcdavid. I dont think Myers get moved unless we acquire 2 more RH D one of them being a top #3 RHD. Myers is a decent #4 who can play bigger minutes if injuries hit, but shouldnt be playing those minutes regularly. You only move him if you can get an upgrade on him

You move him even for a lateral move, if it saves some cap or you get a pick also

 

[Rowlet]

"Hello, we're interested in Myers, we're willing to give you...."

"Done!"

Honestly he was fine this year. Not worth 6m, but he's a RHS top 4 D and the Canucks can retain half.

 

[Freudian]

He's not wrong. In theory Myers is both a right shot and a defenseman.

 

[HockeyWooot]

Myers a good player just overpaid at his current AAV. A bit too high event of a player, some Canucks fans call him the “Chaos Girrafe” lol.

I can see him thriving on the right team.

 

[Jovavic]

You guys were not happy with Peeke in that role?

Peeke is probably best used on the second pairing with Gavrikov

 

[Paul4587]

I could see the Ducks being interested in Myers, we have a massive hole at RD and need a veteran presence back there. We wouldn’t be giving up any significant assets for him though.

 

[Easternbull]

Myers is great skater for his size but us very soft IMHO and does not play a very physical game.

 

[Jovavic]

What's the offer, were the call to be yours?

I would assume that Vancouver is looking to move the contract and not take any money back so sounds like picks or prospects are in the cards...what level? I have no idea lol, maybe someone like Foudy or Fix-Wolsky?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Myers is definitely tradeable but not without the Canucks taking money back for him.

If Myers was actually as good as some Canucks fans were arguing he was in here, the Canucks wouldn't be looking to trade him with what else they have on RD.