Speculation: Canucks as Third Party Trade Option for Salary Equalization

[Izzy Goodenough]

The Canucks situation is incredibly sad and desperate and apparently with many players already indicating they may opt out of the rest of the season.



If all of their sick players go on the LTIR for the rest of the season, they will need to acquire players to ice a team. If teams are looking for a team to take on salaries of players with expiring contracts to facilitate other trades at the deadline, the Canucks can probably accommodate all comers.

So for example, if a team wants Hall at 50%, the Canucks can probably help out for picks or players.

This is their current active roster:

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[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

I don’t have any inside information but I would expect they would just shut down the Canucks from playing for the rest of the season and then use points per game percentage for the draft purposes.

 

[bsu]

thats crazy

 

[Thorton02]

That is crazy

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

I don’t have any inside information but I would expect they would just shut down the Canucks from playing for the rest of the season

Other teams should probably act quickly.

 

[M2Beezy]

Anyone else think this is CRAZY?

 

[notsocommonsense]

I’m not sure why people are speculating that the Nucks players aren’t going to recover from this the way every other teams players have. Yes, this is a new variant but I haven’t heard anything that indicates there is a higher likelihood of long hauling due to it.

I’d expect most, if not all, of Van’s players to recover the same way everyone else has.

 

[SEALBound]

Anyone else think this is CRAZY?

It is crazy.

Crazy times.

 

[Habsrule]

It probably because when other teams got shut down it was because they only had a few players with covid. Pretty much the Canucks entire roster has it.

For example when Montreal had covid only a few players had it. Even when the games started back a player or two couldn’t play yet. For the Canucks if they were shut down for two weeks then that doesn’t guarantee that all players will be ready to return. What if only half are able to play? Then they have to stay shut down for another week or two. With only six weeks left in the regular season having them shut down for the year is maybe the best option.

 

[Captain97]

I’m not sure why people are speculating that the Nucks players aren’t going to recover from this the way every other teams players have. Yes, this is a new variant but I haven’t heard anything that indicates there is a higher likelihood of long hauling due to it.

I’d expect most, if not all, of Van’s players to recover the same way everyone else has.

That's not what people are speculating. People are speculating that players will opt out since they are almost statistically eliminated from the playoffs.

The North division has something like a 97% chance if the 4 playoff teams in any order being.

Toronto
Winnipeg
Edmonton
Montreal

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

I’d expect most, if not all, of Van’s players to recover the same way everyone else has.

I hope they will all recover soon but their recovery date is likely after the season:

"It is important to highlight that more than 50% of COVID-19 survivors complain of substantial fatigue two months after disease onset (60.3 ± 13.6 days) (2)."
Persistent Symptoms in Patients After Acute COVID-19

Pro-athletes may think they fully recover sooner than average people but it is not clear if this is true from anything I have read.

Maybe a scenario is that the symptomatic players may not come back and the asymptomatic may come back if they want to.

Regardless, the Canucks will likely have unprecedented Cap Space and be in need of players to finish the season.

 

[M2Beezy]

That's not what people are speculating. People are speculating that players will opt out since they are almost statistically eliminated from the playoffs.

The North division has something like a 97% chance if the 4 playoff teams in any order being.

Toronto
Winnipeg
Edmonton
Montreal

I can see Edmonton passing Winnipeg for 2nd in the division tho . Either way I guess thell be playing eachother

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

A creative GM, of an already good team, could potentially propel themselves into championship contention by essentially doubling their operational Cap space.

 

[Mickey Marner]

I think the whole team would just opt out, I doubt the Canucks would be forced to replace caphits. They could just sign a bunch of nobodies for cheap with pro-rated caphits too.

 

[Captain97]

I can see Edmonton passing Winnipeg for 2nd in the division tho . Either way I guess thell be playing eachother

That's why I said in any order, but these 4 are pretty much set in stone.

 

[TeddyBare]

It probably because when other teams got shut down it was because they only had a few players with covid. Pretty much the Canucks entire roster has it.

For example when Montreal had covid only a few players had it. Even when the games started back a player or two couldn’t play yet. For the Canucks if they were shut down for two weeks then that doesn’t guarantee that all players will be ready to return. What if only half are able to play? Then they have to stay shut down for another week or two. With only six weeks left in the regular season having them shut down for the year is maybe the best option.

I believe montreal only had one player have it
but 2 were in contact tracing

 

[HugeInTheShire]

The NHL wouldn't allow such blatant cap circumvention, they'd have to make up a roster of unsigned players and AHL scraps

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

even if all of this was possible, jim benning is going to pull this off?

you know he fired everyone in the organization who owns a calculator right?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Sorry--the NHL would investigate VERY quickly why so many players and staff got it and why it spread so quickly.

NO way in hell the NHL would let the entire team quit and then allow the Canucks to capitalize on it

 

[Drake1588]

Other teams should probably act quickly.

No, they should probably wait and see how this plays out, and get a sense of how the NHL wants to handle it. Everything up to and including shutting down the Canucks for the remainder of the season is potentially on the table.

Trades don't just happen, independent of the league office. Every single transaction has to pass muster with the league. If the Canucks seek to push through a cap circumvention-y sort of move, then the league will have to convene then and there, on the spot, and announce a ruling about how they are going to handle Vancouver at the deadline. This occurs before the transaction in question receives league approval.

There's no such thing as getting on this quickly and ramming it through before the league can react, though. The league office reviews every NHL transaction before approving it. Without approval, the transaction doesn't happen.

The league will provide guidance, and teams will be waiting on the league to sound off. My guess is that the league would frown on this sort of thing if it sees a team get significant cap relief from a team that is going dormant, but who knows. Any whiff of cap circumvention will not get very far.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

This year just keeps getting weirder

I have no interest or any excitement whatsoever for the playoffs and who will win the Cup. Let's just get this bizzaro season over with and HOPEFULLY things are back to normal next season

 

[HolyGhost]

I am sure the NHL WOULD DO nothing if an entire team who did not follow the rules, suddenly quit and the team took advantage of the situation. Their season is over and the players know it. IF the players quit? no problem. the organisation gets the 32nd overall pick and are prevented from doing trades till the season ends

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

No, they should probably wait and see how this plays out, and get a sense of how the NHL wants to handle it.
If the Canucks seek to push through a cap circumvention-y sort of move...

The Trade Deadline is on April 12th, so time, as they say, is of the essence.

Putting sick player on the LTIR is legitimate so how is this cap circumvention.

The Golden Knight took advantage of this sort of cap sharing to mutual advantage and the Kraken model will probably include similar aspects to this scenario.

 

[archangel2]

I do not see the NHL letting the Canucks capitalize on the situation

 

[archangel2]

I do not see the NHL letting the Canucks capitalize on the situation