Post-Game Talk: Can't Win Em All - Ducks 4 Jets 3 (OT)

Tommigun

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Ties are lame. And thank god they’re never coming back.

How come? Teams should fight to win to get the extra point, instead of flipping a coin with a shootout. If they are unable to I don’t think they should be awarded a random point. Do you think it’s justified that a TIE (of all things) nets three points to the playing teams, instead of the normal two points? When contending for a playoff position - is it justified to be scared to death of ties?

Edit: Europe with all its socialism got one thing right - football games paradoxically net less points when ending in a tie than wins. I can’t wrap my head around the fact that NHL games net more points with “ties”. It goes against all common sense.
 
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I somewhat agree with you regarding 3on3, but this is a terrible idea. The whole reason we need to practice is because we force plays instead of trying to use the entire ice and maximize possession. We need to learn to take the puck back out over centre if there is no option in the offensive zone and use all of the open ice to open up space.

I would say can we not use two ice sheets at the Iceplex? Send all of the guys who don't play 3on3 onto another ice surface.

Maurice said they do this at TC. The issue is when you get one 1 hour practice per week (it was less than that in November actually) why would you our choose 3 on 3 to practice? It doesn't make sense.
 

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Then the problem is only having 1 hour of practice per week. That's not enough.

It is what it is. Every team has to deal with it. Unless you reduce the number of games (and reduce player and owner pay - good luck with that) it's the new reality.

They had more practice time in October as the will in February.
 

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The NHL points system makes absolutely no sense... if in a "tie game" situation the eventual winner is going to get 2 points and looser 1 point, then you really need to have 3 points for regulation win. It's a no brainer, I don' t understand the logic behind the idea that a "tie game" is worth 3 points but a regulation win game is only 2 points.

With the current system, when the playoffs get nearer, for many teams those freebie loser points become very important and it might even encourage playing it overly safe to reach OT in some games. Like if two teams who have it tight, but are not competing for the same playoff spot play a game, for both it makes sense to end up in a tie and get at least something and then try for the win in OT/SO. Then you get those overly lame "play it safe" 3rd periods. With the 3 point system, a team trying to make the playoffs would have every reason to push hard for regulation wins to ensure maximum 3 points instead of only 1 or 2 if the game gets to OT.
 

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It's not a "freebie loser point"

It's a "freebie winner point"

The game ended tied. Both teams earned a point for the tie.
 

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It's not a "freebie loser point"

It's a "freebie winner point"

The game ended tied. Both teams earned a point for the tie.

You'd better tell the NHL to stop calling them Overtime Losses and Shoot Out Losses. It makes losing games look like losses, and the point "earned" from them like loser points.
 

YWGinYYZ

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You'd better tell the NHL to stop calling them Overtime Losses and Shoot Out Losses. It makes losing games look like losses, and the point "earned" from them like loser points.

One point is earned for the tie, as per the NHL rules. The extra point is awarded for the OT or SO win.

84.1 Overtime – Regular-season - During regular-season games, if at the end of the three (3) regular twenty (20) minute periods, the score shall be tied, each team shall be awarded one point in the League standings. The teams will then play an additional overtime period of not more than five (5) minutes with the team scoring first declared the winner and being awarded an additional point.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2017-2018-NHL-rulebook.pdf

Page 125.
 

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