Seravalli: Canes asking for a 5th for DeAngelo; will retain 50%

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

I look forward to DeAngelo traded back to the Canes somehow in 1.5 years

 

[Troy McClure]

That is crazy they can’t give him away at 840k when hardly any D are available. Well, not that crazy.

It does say a lot when a playoff team is dumping a guy at a time when most other playoff teams are looking to add depth. I guess they'd rather have a guy from the AHL as their #7 going into the playoffs.

 

[Rpenny]

Injuries and poor play caught up with him

 

[n8]

Really hoping Colorado picks up TDA.

 

[wunderpanda]

does seravalli have sources that aren't from seattle (that leaked the expansion draft results)? deangelo would be an easy replacement if seattle trades schultz i suppose.

 

[Leafshater67]

The leafs should take a flier on him. He’s basically what they wanted in Klingberg

 

[JunkyardKangaroo]

The leafs should take a flier on him. He’s basically what they wanted in Klingberg

He plays with alot more competitive edge too. Would love Tony on my team for a playoff run. Let him off his leash and everything.

 

[archangel2]

while other playoff teams are buying D the canes want to dump the most in demand position in the NHL. For me this has nothing to do with his attitude but all about the fact he is a one dimensional d man and in the playoffs you need D who can play in all situations. But mostly they need to be able to handle themselves in their own zone

 

[bleedgreen]

When you wear out your welcome, this happens.

What’s this all about? He’s never worn out his welcome with the Canes. He’s been playing well recently and he’s never been in trouble with the team in any way. He doesn’t want to be the 7th guy and they’re trying to accommodate him. They prefer defensive dmen in that spot, they’ll pick one up at the deadline.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

while other playoff teams are buying D the canes want to dump the most in demand position in the NHL. For me this has nothing to do with his attitude but all about the fact he is a one dimensional d man and in the playoffs you need D who can play in all situations. But mostly they need to be able to handle themselves in their own zone

Or, maybe, tony d knows where he stands in the league with his reputation. He knows he needs to play to generate interest in him for next season.

Add in that he signed here under the premise that he would start because another defender was going to be traded before the season starts. That didn’t happen and he is the odd man out.

 

[archangel2]

Or, maybe, tony d knows where he stands in the league with his reputation. He knows he needs to play to generate interest in him for next season.

Add in that he signed here under the premise that he would start because another defender was going to be traded before the season starts. That didn’t happen and he is the odd man out.

This is where "nothing personal but it's business" line kicks in. At the end of the day. NHL teams care little about most players. If they can use them? they will keep him. My guess is that the canes (and this is where his history kicks in) may want to move him because Tony has come to them about his playing time and they know an unhappy tony can be a dangerous thing

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

This is where "nothing personal but it's business" line kicks in. At the end of the day. NHL teams care little about most players. If they can use them? they will keep him. My guess is that the canes (and this is where his history kicks in) may want to move him because Tony has come to them about his playing time and they know an unhappy tony can be a dangerous thing

Instead of it being a “dangerous” thing it could just be the team understands the player’s frustration with the situation and tries to take care of its players

 

[RangerBoy]

Why did Carolina even bring back Tony last summer? What was the point? Some of the teams create their own issues.

 

[Over the volcano]

KHL is likely his next stop.

Ignoring his off-ice antics, I can't think of a more talented player recently that has put in zero effort to work on his weaknesses.

Seems like the kind of kid who cant even imagine having any weaknesses

 

[spockBokk]

How would any of us know what the team thinks of him?

Because his teammates, GM and coach have all publicly said they love him in the locker room.

Not rocket science…

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Why did Carolina even bring back Tony last summer? What was the point? Some of the teams create their own issues.

Both him and orlov have been interviewed and have said they expected a bigger role with this team when they signed. Reading between the lines, it sounds like a defense trade was supposed to happen (pesce) but didn’t. So the team had to make do. Chatty matched better with Orlov than Tony did. Tony hasn’t been bad by any means. Chatty has been good and the better orlov partner.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Why did Carolina even bring back Tony last summer? What was the point? Some of the teams create their own issues.

A confluence of things.
1) They needed 1 more defensemen and help on the PP in the offseason, so they tried to trade for him. They had a deal with Philly but the league intervened and said they had to wait.
2) Obtaining Orlov was unexpected in free agency.
3) After that, they basically honored the original deal with Philly(and Tony) that they had in place before the League Nixed it. Philly bought him out so Carolina signed him and then in a separate transaction, sent the prospect (Rizzo) they planned to trade for Tony in the first place. Sometimes GM value the relationship both with players and other GMs.
4) They fully expected to trade a defenseman for forward in the off-season. Rumor was Pesce but no deal that the Canes liked ever materialized.
5) He was given first shot at the #6 defensemen to start the season, but he and Orlov were terrible together. Once Chatfield took over the RHD with Orlov, they had chemistry and worked well together, making Tony the odd man out.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

It does say a lot when a playoff team is dumping a guy at a time when most other playoff teams are looking to add depth. I guess they'd rather have a guy from the AHL as their #7 going into the playoffs.

Nope, definitely not this. Our next guy up is Dylan Coghlan who has never, at any time with the canes, looked like an nhl regular. Since we have no ahl team this year, we have basically no depth beyond that.

This has got to be TDA asking out thinking he can be a regular somewhere else. He’s currently the canes #7 and only play every so often.

 

[jsol]

Because his teammates, GM and coach have all publicly said they love him in the locker room.

Not rocket science…

I believe he’s obviously a problem fit for this team, and he doesn’t fit. It’s this or waivers.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I believe he’s obviously a problem fit for this team, and he doesn’t fit. It’s this or waivers.

Or it isn’t and it’s just a trade request

 

[bleedgreen]

This is where "nothing personal but it's business" line kicks in. At the end of the day. NHL teams care little about most players. If they can use them? they will keep him. My guess is that the canes (and this is where his history kicks in) may want to move him because Tony has come to them about his playing time and they know an unhappy tony can be a dangerous thing

This is the complete opposite of everything that’s happened with Tony as a Cane. He’s arguably the most polarizing player in the league the last ten years and yet he was welcomed back with open arms. When he struggled early they gave him every chance in the world to play through it. The coach openly said he helped the team pp and they wanted him to play, over Chatfield which is impressive. They have been using Tony as an injury fill in, and he’s been great. The team has a history of having a defensive type as the seventh guy and Tony wants to play. They’re accommodating him and at the same time setting themselves up for getting a 7th guy that fits the system.

His attitude as a Cane has been pretty much spot on “professional” both times. He’s been the best pp qb we’ve had this season, he’s just not fit in on the third pair. Orlov/TDA wasn’t an NHL level pairing. Orlov has struggled figuring out how to be a third pair guy and he needed a Chatfield to settle down.

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

I think if your goalie punches you in the face that says A LOT about you as a person, that doesn't just happen.

But you don't have to be a good person to be good at your job, Antonio Brown, Jon Jones are 2 examples of that.

There is enough talent there that somebody will look past his crap, and there is a need in Toronto

Fyi georgiev was the most hated man in that locker room. You just dont see goalies flipping off their former teams bench in their first game against them. Georgiev thought he was better than igor and would throw hissy fits regularly

 

[Hunter Gathers]

KHL is likely his next stop.

Ignoring his off-ice antics, I can't think of a more talented player recently that has put in zero effort to work on his weaknesses.

He just doesn’t care. Absolute loser.

 

[Petes2424]

don't get why they wouldn't just keep him for depth, he played fine in the few games chatfield was out

Because human nature happens in a locker room.

Sometimes as fans, we tend to see things on paper, and view players as robots almost. Especially since the salary cap era began.

Carolina only has themselves to blame on this one. They know his history. As long as things are rolling along at his pace, everything’s great. Hand him a shred of adversity, he’ll bring everything around him crashing down. He’s proven it everywhere he’s ever played. They were naive to think they were any different.

 

[bleedgreen]

Because human nature happens in a locker room.

Sometimes as fans, we tend to see things on paper, and view players as robots almost. Especially since the salary cap era began.

Carolina only has themselves to blame on this one. They know his history. As long as things are rolling along at his pace, everything’s great. Hand him a shred of adversity, he’ll bring everything around him crashing down. He’s proven it everywhere he’s ever played. They were naive to think they were any different.

I love how Canes fans keep telling people what’s been going on with the guy, and people keep avoiding that info and keep spinning their own story to keep their agenda going.