Zine
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All Playing in the ADT Challenge...and certainly I recall Rad, Vol & Shir all being mainstays on ur Russian WJC squads ...Makarov was quite the nifty little player ( with of course a famous father ! ) , and Mayer caught my eye too ( particularly his German Sounding name ) + he also often appeared on the goal scoring sheet... so surely everyone of these guys were Russian WJC regulars as well...Varlamov was ur goalie in one of the Gold Medal Games wasn't he ?
I did glance briefly at a couple Russian ADT rosters...and man a lot of those names looked damn familiar as well ...I was too lazy to look up Russian WJC rosters to cross reference them + a lot of those names are bloody difficult for a Canuck...but I'm sure quite a number of those names I saw...who I didn't mention ...likewise played on Russian WJC teams ...perhaps not the same year they appeared in ADT...but at the very least the next year
In addition to ‘lesser’ players…..notice I said YOUNGER as well. So yes, some Russians who played in the ADT Challenge also played in the WJC. However, almost all (at the time of the ADT Challenge) were still “C” or lower players.
No different than some of this year’s Canadian WJC players being “C” or lower level last year. However, the vast majority of Russians chosen for this tourney are scrubs….there’s no denying that.
The fact that you’re impressed with guys like Mayer shows that Russia has good depth….’cause that guy blows.
BTW, Igor Makarov isn’t Sergei Makarov’s son
Btw...I also read a news interview in rushockey.com...about a year ago...where the Russian Junior Coach ( Popikan sp ? ) speaks glowingly about the ADT Canada Russia challenge...how its a great prep for the WJHC & helps expose his young guys to a completely alien/ more physical style of hockey...He also decries the fact that RSL teams refuse to release their U20 RSLers for that ADT Challenge despite him seemingly pleading for them to do so..Now maybe some of his squad did play games in RSL...But my understanding is that the U20's who stuck in RSL, rather then being sent back down to their jr team counterparts... were never released for this ADT tourney...
The guys who aren’t released make up almost all of the “A” and “B” players……but that’s not saying RSL junior players aren’t released. Of course, Popeikin wants to bring good players, however, despite what he says, what's evident is that this tourney isn’t taken seriously b/c RSL teams DO routinely release their players for other junior tournaments in Europe…..but not for the ADT Challenge.
My main bone of contention is ur claim that this was a Russian C or D team vs. Canuck A teams...that's a bit of a stretch !....U look at an average " Q " Adt Challenge game roster & u've got maybe 2 or 3 guys that end up playing for our Nats...Compared to our nats ...who also include WHL, OHL, NCAA and even the odd U20 NHLer ...Team Q ' split squad ' is certainly a C Team...
I’m not saying the Canadian teams are “A” squads…..far from it. They average out to “C” or a little below teams……just like Russia. However, the difference is that Canada has the luxury of playing 90% of its top end talent. Apart from Radulov, Voloshenko and Shirokov that one year, this is rarely if ever the case with Russia. THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE. Canada plays with many of its “A” and “B” players……Russia rarely, if ever, sends its “A” or “B” players.
Do you really want me to make a comparative list of both country’s players who played in the WJC and at the ADT Challenge in the same year? I don’t think you want to go there.
To Reiterate : only a few guys from a Q ADT game roster ( for example ) end up on our Nats...Ergo...I could easily make the argument that this was only our C or D team...Thing is ...because of our tremendous depth...we Canucks could put 6 teams together easily...that'd be capable of beating the RUS WJC Nats ' A ' Team...on a given night...
Now you’re just showing you arrogance or ignorance…….I can’t tell which.
I remember you guys saying the same thing during the Olympics. “We could send 6 teams…..blah blah blah”. Obviously you didn’t learn anything from that 7th place finish. BTW, who were you eliminated by?
Again, Canada has better depth than Russia - no one disagrees. However, the reason the ADT Challenge is so lopsided is not because of depth……..it’s because Canada has FAR MORE of its top “A” and “B” players playing……..while Russia hardly sends any of theirs.
And until you can name be more than a handful of these "A" and "B" Russian players that played throughout the last 4 years, you're gonna have trouble refuting my points.
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