Post-Game Talk: Caesers

[kovazub94]

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And again, for WHAT purpose? It's not like Vesey is lighting it up on the first line or has major untapped potential. The reason this organization sucks at developing scoring forwards is they only get better at scoring by actually trying to score, not by trying to play Gritty Rangers Hockey (TM). If a line is working, leave it alone. But by all means keep moving the kid all over the lineup and keep asking him to defer to everyone else, and don't be surprised when in 5 years he maxes out as Tuomo Ruutu.

This is so typical of HFBNYR - sudden amnesia when framework is needed. You’re asking for what purpose? Go back to roster thread from around that time. The Rangers were struggling to score because of low shooting percentage AND there was absolutely no offense from then bottom-6. Gallant wanted to deepen the roster by creating an offensively capable 3rd line. Kids line was proven in that regard from the end of last season and random shifts of brilliance here and there (post PP minutes) this season. Low conversion issues continued but putting kids together was NOT bad idea and didn’t in itself put kids in worse off position from the development perspective. Other factors contributed if you think Kakko looks worse than when he was with Zibanejad. I don’t know what else to tell you if you want to rant and be upset with up and down play of a 21 year old and need someone else to put a blame for it.

 

[chosen]

12 mins for Lafreniere. 15 mins for Kakko.

NYR, destroying 1st round picks since 1963.

12 mins for Lafreniere. 15 mins for Kakko.

NYR, destroying 1st round picks since 1963.

 

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12 mins for Lafreniere. 15 mins for Kakko.

NYR, destroying 1st round picks since 1963.

Schneider

Kakko (the universal choice) will be fine.

Laf (the universal choice)

K'Andre Miller

Chytil

Skjel

J.T. Miller

Kreider

Cherepanov died

Marc Staal

Blackburn injured

Cherneski injured (he looked really good)

Sundstrom

Kovalev

Leetch

Dahlen

Gagner

James Patrick

Deblois

Duguay

Murdoch cocaine

Dave Maloney

Middleton

Vickers

Dupont

Park



Have they made mistakes? Every team does.

 

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To think Colorado bothered to developed MacKinnon and Rantanen. How quaint.

1994.

Martin Kaut

Connor Bleakley

Mitchell Heard

 

[TopShelfSnipes]

This is so typical of HFBNYR - sudden amnesia when framework is needed. You’re asking for what purpose? Go back to roster thread from around that time. The Rangers were struggling to score because of low shooting percentage AND there was absolutely no offense from then bottom-6. Gallant wanted to deepen the roster by creating an offensively capable 3rd line. Kids line was proven in that regard from the end of last season and random shifts of brilliance here and there (post PP minutes) this season. Low conversion issues continued but putting kids together was NOT bad idea and didn’t in itself put kids in worse off position from the development perspective. Other factors contributed if you think Kakko looks worse than when he was with Zibanejad. I don’t know what else to tell you if you want to rant and be upset with up and down play of a 21 year old and need someone else to put a blame for it.

Yeah...and how exactly has that worked out for the team and the development of everyone? Who besides Fox has been contributing consistently offensively with these stupid lines?

Now nobody is lighting it up, they're losing games left and right, but let's all act positive and pretend it's working because they beat a lousy Senators team and Jimmy Vesey is exceeding the lowest of expectations that he entered the season with.

 

[kovazub94]

Yeah...and how exactly has that worked out for the team and the development of everyone? Who besides Fox has been contributing consistently offensively with these stupid lines?

Now nobody is lighting it up, they're losing games left and right, but let's all act positive and pretend it's working because they beat a lousy Senators team and Jimmy Vesey is exceeding the lowest of expectations that he entered the season with.

Sure, go ahead and have the last word!

 

[Machinehead]

This is why I keep saying, expectations = bad.

This mentality is why a significant piece of our fanbase continues to, as another poster put it quite eloquently, fellate grit, and why we haven't won a Cup or developed a potential Hall of Fame offensive player in a generation.

Perhaps we should rename the prototypical "generational player" in the context of this organization since they clearly don't come along once every generation for this organization.

As if Jimmy Vesey is going to magically morph into a 75 point player at age 29.

Meanwhile, Kravtsov *could* someday, but clearly that's not going to happen when he plays his first game in weeks, puts up good metrics, looks decent on the ice, but gets criticized cuz he doesn't score. And Vally's expert analysis of Vesey's "goal" showed quite clearly how that was a systems goal, and literally any NHL caliber player would have also scored there.

There are days I hope the kids get traded and light it up for another team just to prove the point in the hopes this organization will finally get a clue, but the reality is even when that happens (such as with Buch), nothing changes.

Oh that's me!

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Speaking of first round picks, Kreider moved into 9th place in franchise history for goals scored last night. That’s pretty damn cool.