C William Nylander (2014, 8th, TOR) VIII

[Apotheosis]

Kessel actually has fairly good playmaking abilities.

Kessel and Nylander may be different "types" of talent - but they're also different "levels" of talent.

There is literally nothing to suggest that.

 

[Shwaguy*]

Kessel actually has fairly good playmaking abilities.

Kessel and Nylander may be different "types" of talent - but they're also different "levels" of talent.

Nylander has as much talent as Phil did.

 

[Rebuilt]

Nylander has as much talent as Phil did.

He has a different skillset. Better or worse is to be determined.

 

[Apotheosis]

Nylander with another 3 point night tonight. 1 goal and 2 assists.

 

[Bad News Bears]

PPG in his last 11 games. Really impressive stretch. Couple of stinkers, but mostly been contributing and working hard. Can't get complacent, needs to stay committed.

 

[WilliamNylander]

Decent game today

 

[dubey]

PPG in his last 11 games. Really impressive stretch. Couple of stinkers, but mostly been contributing and working hard. Can't get complacent, needs to stay committed.

And still 19

 

[Bad News Bears]

And still 19

Scary good.

 

[Atomos2]

Nylander with another 3 point night tonight. 1 goal and 2 assists.

Doesn't count. Those points were against a non-playoff team

 

[Knies iT]

PPG in his last 11 games. Really impressive stretch. Couple of stinkers, but mostly been contributing and working hard. Can't get complacent, needs to stay committed.

13pts in 21 games (.62 PPG)

19 Y/O playing Centre.

Ridiculous.

 

[Christ]

Indeed. Kessel was a sublime passer.

So wonder where the Ehlers debate stands now? The refrain early in the year was he was superior because of his numbers in the NHL vs Nylander's in the AHL

Do you really want another fan base coming in here trying to tell you how crappy Nylander is in comparison to their prospect?

 

[Apotheosis]

13pts in 21 games (.62 PPG)

19 Y/O playing Centre.

Ridiculous.

And setting up a guy that Ottawa considered cap dump.

 

[WilliamNylander]

13pts in 21 games (.62 PPG)

19 Y/O playing Centre.

Ridiculous.

Plays every shift with Colin Greening (who's on a >20 goal pace with Nylander)

 

[Semantics]

Guys Nylander is a better player already than Kessel. He's so much more responsible on D (the best two way C on the Leafs), he isn't afraid to recover the puck, and he doesn't take as many low percentage possession wasting shots as Kessel.

I think some of you still view Kessel as an 80-point guy when the reality is he's a 60-point guy and incredibly one dimensional.

 

[NylanderBros]

13pts in 21 games (.62 PPG)

19 Y/O playing Centre.

Ridiculous.

Kid is something else.

 

[Semantics]

PPG in his last 11 games. Really impressive stretch. Couple of stinkers, but mostly been contributing and working hard. Can't get complacent, needs to stay committed.

Just like his AHL progression - started out with just a few points his first 10 games, then upped his production with every 10 game stretch.

 

[Nithoniniel]

He'd also be shooting an unsustainable 30%. Really excited about his chances to be a star, but his numbers show he hasn't been a victim of bad luck.

It's not his posts as much as the set-ups in my opinion. His on-ice sh% was a bit low for what you'd expect last time I checked, especially considering the pure quality of the chances he's set up.

At one point he had 7 in a row where he gave a linemate a grade A chance (open goal, puck on the type on a cross crease pass, breakaways etc). Things are starting to even out though for sure.

 

[Pi]

Indeed. Kessel was a sublime passer.

So wonder where the Ehlers debate stands now? The refrain early in the year was he was superior because of his numbers in the NHL vs Nylander's in the AHL

I'd take Nylander over both Larkin and Ehlers. He's got his feet wet...based on how he's played so far I bet he's going to be a Calder threat next year. If Babcock continues to play him centre he's definitely challenging for Calder trophy.

 

[TheLeastOfTheBunch]

Doesn't count. Those points were against a non-playoff team

Remember you posting a while back that Nylander started off slow last year in the AHL before taking off, and, what do you know, the same has happened at the NHL level.

Feels really lucky to have him on the Leafs

 

[McMatthews]

William Nylander has 13 points in 21 games.

Jake Virtanen has 13 points in 54 games.

Markus Naslund was the GM of MODO when Nylander was there. How could they pass on him?

 

[supermann_98]

My buddy is a house Detroit fan and is comparing Nylander when he's on top of his game to Yzerman

 

[Shwaguy*]

Guys Nylander is a better player already than Kessel. He's so much more responsible on D (the best two way C on the Leafs), he isn't afraid to recover the puck, and he doesn't take as many low percentage possession wasting shots as Kessel.

I think some of you still view Kessel as an 80-point guy when the reality is he's a 60-point guy and incredibly one dimensional.

Nylander is pretty good defensively, especially for his age. But Kadri is very good defensively.

 

[Shwaguy*]

I'd take Nylander over both Larkin and Ehlers. He's got his feet wet...based on how he's played so far I bet he's going to be a Calder threat next year. If Babcock continues to play him centre he's definitely challenging for Calder trophy.

His biggest competition. Matthews and Marner, will be on the same powerplay unit as him

 

[Shwaguy*]

Bad night on faceoffs though.

Not that I really care that much lol

 

[hawksrule]

If Kessel were less talented maybe it would be a good comparison.

This crowd sure turned on Kessel. Remember when he was supposedly better than Kane?