C Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts, QMJHL (2012 draft) II

[fahad203]

To me - Grigorenko, Yakupov and Forsberg have superstar potential.

That is the kind of player every team needs, but especially the Leafs. Since Sundin and maybe Mogilny, they haven't had a real superstar franchise player. Obviously they won't be able to get Yakupov, but the other 2 are possible.

Why bro, why do you do this? why must you remind me of Sundin / Mogilny era ?

 

[Fulcrum]

Why bro, why do you do this? why must you remind me of Sundin / Mogilny era ?

Oh and don't forget the good old days of Thomas, Roberts, Tucker, Corson, Antropov, CUJO

 

[ark]

Oh and don't forget the good old days of Thomas, Roberts, Tucker, Corson, Antropov

Wow, you forgot Aki Berg? Tsk tsk tsk.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Im going to say guaranteed top 5.

Haha man was i wrong.

Seems like teams are afraid of the 'russian factor' after all.

 

[Roboholic]

I know TSN rated him 12th but I really didn't expect him to be a available at this point. He could be a huge steal at this point.

 

[Seanconn*]

The "Russian Factor" is ridiculous....

 

[JawandaPuck]

Finally...to BUF he goes.

 

[HockeyH3aven]

 

[1972]

wow... stunned

 

[SabresFan26]

Pumped. Any Q guys have any words for us Sabre fans? We wanted to tank for this guy at one point way earlier in the year and he slips to us. Didn't think he'd fall out of the top 5 with Montreal and Toronto.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Pumped. Any Q guys have any words for us Sabre fans? We wanted to tank for this guy at one point way earlier in the year and he slips to us. Didn't think he'd fall out of the top 5 with Montreal and Toronto.

He should be ready to step right in as he's 22 years old...

Not a lot of insight regarding his freefall from #2 to #12, general feeling was he fell due to russian factor and perhaps an unwillingness to compete. A lot feel he's the most talented guy in the draft.

Certainly a moderate risk-high reward pick. Best of luck, glad you guys got him out of anyone else.

 

[SabresFan26]

He should be ready to step right in as he's 22 years old...

Not a lot of insight regarding his freefall from #2 to #12, general feeling was he fell due to russian factor and perhaps an unwillingness to compete. A lot feel he's the most talented guy in the draft.

Certainly a moderate risk-high reward pick. Best of luck, glad you guys got him out of anyone else.

Thanks you guys got a stud in Galchenyuk

 

[RussCourtnallsGhost]

I really think this guy is gonna be a beast. He sees the ice so well, and I like his release quite a bit. A lot of teams are gonna regret not taking him. Glad he went to a team I don't hate!

 

[dma0034]

Heck, he ain't falling past ten. If he does, I'll literally die of laughter.

R.I.P Endersoldier where ever you are

 

[EichHart]

I haven't been this happy for a draft since we got Myers in 2008...I cannot believe he fell this far! I don't understand how someone with these stats:

It was a bit of a fall for Grigorenko, who some had predicted would be selected in the top five after scoring 85 points (40+45) in just 59 games during an injury-riddled 2011-12 campaign.

Falls to 12th...I do not care if hes Russian absolutely incredible steal IMO. He has already said he has no plans to go to KHL next year.

Bill Hoppe ‏@BillHoppeNHL

Mikhail Grigorenko: "I think I will be ready to play in the NHL next year." #Sabres

Can't wait to finally see a potential number one center develop! =)

 

[Vikingstad]

Is buffalo in same division as Toronto? If so, and Grig turns out to be a sick center, and Leafs still dont end up having a 1C, they will be kicking themselves every time they play buffalo.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Congrats to Buffalo I bet all the teams that took so-so Defenseman ahead of him will be regretting passing Grigorenko's high-upside up in a few years time.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I really think this guy is gonna be a beast. He sees the ice so well, and I like his release quite a bit. A lot of teams are gonna regret not taking him. Glad he went to a team I don't hate!

If beasts wear skirts and dream of unicorns jumping over rainbows.....then yes, he can be a beast.

He fell because he is extremely soft and timid. I like the Girgensons pick but they should have taken Faksa over Grigorenko.

 

[EichHart]

If beasts wear skirts and dream of unicorns jumping over rainbows.....then yes, he can be a beast.

He fell because he is extremely soft and timid. I like the Girgensons pick but they should have taken Faksa over Grigorenko.

Consensus number one or two for nearly the entire year falls rapidly right before the draft because of teams scared that hes "Russian" and had Mono for the combine...He has made many statements already about how hes not even thinking of going to the KHL and is going to make the team next year. 6'3'' 200+ lbs center that could be our franchise player in the near future. Could not be more happy. Faksa is no where near the talent Grigs possesses on the offensive side of the puck. Your lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Consensus number one or two for nearly the entire year falls rapidly right before the draft because of teams scared that hes "Russian" and had Mono for the combine...He has made many statements already about how hes not even thinking of going to the KHL and is going to make the team next year. 6'3'' 200+ lbs center that could be our franchise player in the near future. Could not be more happy. Faksa is no where near the talent Grigs possesses on the offensive side of the puck. Your lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

I personally think Grigorenko will be a player that your fanbase might learn to despise but I hope I am wrong as he is just a kid and I don't wish him to fail (unless he was drafted by Boston or Toronto).

IMO Faksa will have a better career and fits into a contending teams philosophy whereas Grigorenko types tend to populate bottom dwellers.

Anyways, congrats on Girgensons as he is a beast.

 

[Ralonzo]

He should be ready to step right in as he's 22 years old...

Shirley, you can't be serious

 

[Vasilevskiy]

I haven't been this happy for a draft since we got Myers in 2008...I cannot believe he fell this far! I don't understand how someone with these stats:

It was a bit of a fall for Grigorenko, who some had predicted would be selected in the top five after scoring 85 points (40+45) in just 59 games during an injury-riddled 2011-12 campaign.

Falls to 12th...I do not care if hes Russian absolutely incredible steal IMO. He has already said he has no plans to go to KHL next year.

Bill Hoppe ‏@BillHoppeNHL

Mikhail Grigorenko: "I think I will be ready to play in the NHL next year." #Sabres

Can't wait to finally see a potential number one center develop! =)

He'll be with the sabres next season.
He's a prima-donna though, we'll see what he does off the ice

 

[Brewsky]

The next Viktor Kozlov

 

[SECRET SQUIRREL]

The stupidity of some of the haters of this poor kid amazes me.... watching Don Cherry too much :

 

[Frank Drebin]

The Toronto-centric, media-spearheaded 'spin' machine to have a shot at Grigorenko at the number 5 slot.*

I reckon Brian Burke wishes to re-'Matt Sundin-ize' the Toronto franchise, ...at the expense of a very possible Montreal 'Béliveau-like' renewal era. He's counting on the Habs neophyte GM's naivety and edginess to wrest the big prize away, and as supplementary benefits go, steamroll the Habs' future with a 'grand-theft' larceny.

You push the classic Russian narrative with the massive help of friendly media (the TSN Maple Leaf cohort in particular) , ...in the realistic expectations that people's prejudices will take over and in due time, hand over...at the number five slot... the generational, the prize Hockey player that is a healthy Michaïl Grigorenko.

We're witnessing completely made-up, make-believe character assassination here, a cynical operation worthy of the worst Hack the murky world of Politics has been capable of successfully bringing to fruition. Brian Burke doesn't believe a word of what's being spewed on Grigorenko. He'll amply prove it when he rides Grigorenko's coattails, and 'laughs' it all off when a Habs' fan suggests in retrospect that the hate fest had been Burke-engineered to steer the Habs' glorious legacy to a richly deserved ...Toranna rest area.

nope