GDT: burly midwestern hockeymen from ohio penetrate small, skillful hockeymens tight d

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Haven't looked at the numbers, but wasn't our PK goalie save % off the charts ridiculous last season, particularly relative to this season?

Maybe, but the sample size, because the Canes don't take many penalties, is still small. (my number above was wrong as that was home only).

Canes are at 77.3% this year on 53 attempts, so they allowed 12 goals in 53 attempts. If they had given up 3 less PP goals this year, they'd be basically at the same rate as they ended up last year. 1-2 goals can have a big swing right now.

 

[RodTheBawd]

Yeah, no doubt this year is too early to gauge, just throwing another factor out. We weren't exactly on the PK much last season either, though.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

For kicks, I looked and if NaturalStatTrick is right,:

Last year, the Canes SH SV% was 86.2% which was only 20th ranked in the NHL.
This year, the Canes SH SV% is 85%, which is 26th ranked in the NHL, so not that different than last year.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

IMO teams have somewhat figured out the PK. Play keep away until the Hurricanes are too tired to aggressively pursue the puck. If they're fresh, and it's a 50-50 puck/board battle, up to 3 guys will swarm the puck trying to take possession.

Big thing though is what BBA said- 27 attempts means 3 more power play goals allowed is a loss of 10% on the PK percentage. That's mostly the difference between the best PK team and the worst PK team.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

i already have a good name for the next thread after we win this one

 

[Bub]

For kicks, I looked and if NaturalStatTrick is right,:

Holy cow, I just went to that site for the first time and...that layout...

 

[sheriff bart]

I like hockey

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

IMO teams have somewhat figured out the PK. Play keep away until the Hurricanes are too tired to aggressively pursue the puck. If they're fresh, and it's a 50-50 puck/board battle, up to 3 guys will swarm the puck trying to take possession.

Big thing though is what BBA said- 27 attempts means 3 more power play goals allowed is a loss of 10% on the PK percentage. That's mostly the difference between the best PK team and the worst PK team.

Yeah, I was accidentally looking at home PP's only. It was 53 attempts, but still, 3 less goals would put them where they were last year so the sample size still applies.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Holy cow, I just went to that site for the first time and...that layout...

Yeah, it's tough. I used to like the stats.hockeyanalysis.com one, but that's closed when they guy got hired by an NHL team.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The overall PK efficiency was buoyed by a remarkable, but unsustainable stretch from November through December in which the team only gave up 4 goals shorthanded in 27 games. Incredibly, the Canes scored more shorthanded (5) than they gave up during that span. The PK was merely above average otherwise.

NHL.com - Stats

Perhaps the primary driver of that success was Ward, who posted an extraordinary .957 SV% in that game situation. For the sake of comparison, his overall shorthanded SV% under Peters is only .872.

NHL.com - Stats

 

[tarheelhockey]

i already have a good name for the next thread after we win this one

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[Bub]

Yeah, it's tough. I used to like the stats.hockeyanalysis.com one, but that's closed when they guy got hired by an NHL team.

It's good tho to have a site with all these kinds of stats in one place. Since it's not like the NHL site makes it easy to find anything.

And gotta love that high danger shot %. Hoo boy.

 

[Lempo]

Randy! Tori! Steve Sanders! Andrea Zuckerman!

 

[geehaad]

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well, there goes that idea

 

[the halleJOKEL]

no, that just gives me more ideas

 

[RodTheBawd]

For kicks, I looked and if NaturalStatTrick is right,:

Last year, the Canes SH SV% was 86.2% which was only 20th ranked in the NHL.
This year, the Canes SH SV% is 85%, which is 26th ranked in the NHL, so not that different than last year.

The overall PK efficiency was buoyed by a remarkable, but unsustainable stretch from November through December in which the team only gave up 4 goals shorthanded in 27 games. Incredibly, the Canes scored more shorthanded (5) than they gave up during that span. The PK was merely above average otherwise.

NHL.com - Stats

Perhaps the primary driver of that success was Ward, who posted an extraordinary .957 SV% in that game situation. For the sake of comparison, his overall shorthanded SV% under Peters is only .872.

NHL.com - Stats

Ahh, I was definitely remembering that Ward SV%. I had it in my head that his SH SV% was actually higher than his 5v5 SV% for the entire season.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

It's good tho to have a site with all these kinds of stats in one place. Since it's not like the NHL site makes it easy to find anything.

And gotta love that high danger shot %. Hoo boy.

Interesting looking at the high danger numbers. That is if I read them right since that website makes it difficult.

HDCF/60: 2nd best in NHL
HDCA/60: 22nd best in NHL
Canes get a lot of high danger shots but give up more than average.

HDGF/60: 1st in NHL
HDGA/60: 16th in NHL
Canes are the best scoring team in close, but about average in the NHL for HD goals against.

HDSH%: 16th
HDSV%: 12th
Even though the Canes SH% is average for high danger shots, because they get so many of them, they lead the NHL in HDGF/60.
Even though they give up more than average shots, the SV% is better than average for HD shots so they become average at HDGA/60.

They end up being 10th in HDGF% (goals) and 5th for HDCF% (shots)

I watched parts of 4 different games last night and I'm not so sure the Canes defense, in terms of giving up prime scoring opportunities was much worse, if at all, than what I was seeing last night (small sample). Those opportunities seemed pretty abundant in the games I watched. Flyers for a while there were taking close in target practice on the Pens and hit like 4 posts in 1 period. The Wild's defense was a complete sieve last night and Bob and Price bailed their teams out quite a bit also.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I never knew that we weren't allowed to wish injury on someone.

 

[Chrispy]

I never knew that we weren't allowed to wish injury on someone.

Now what am I supposed to do with my Fiona Glenanne gifs?

 

[Bub]

Interesting looking at the high danger numbers. That is if I read them right since that website makes it difficult.

HDCF/60: 2nd best in NHL
HDCA/60: 22nd best in NHL
Canes get a lot of high danger shots but give up more than average.

HDGF/60: 1st in NHL
HDGA/60: 16th in NHL
Canes are the best scoring team in close, but about average in the NHL for HD goals against.

HDSH%: 16th
HDSV%: 12th
Even though the Canes SH% is average for high danger shots, because they get so many of them, they lead the NHL in HDGF/60.
Even though they give up more than average shots, the SV% is better than average for HD shots so they become average at HDGA/60.

They end up being 10th in HDGF% (goals) and 5th for HDCF% (shots)

I watched parts of 4 different games last night and I'm not so sure the Canes defense, in terms of giving up prime scoring opportunities was much worse, if at all, than what I was seeing last night (small sample). Those opportunities seemed pretty abundant in the games I watched. Flyers for a while there were taking close in target practice on the Pens and hit like 4 posts in 1 period. The Wild's defense was a complete sieve last night and Bob and Price bailed their teams out quite a bit also.

And then there's scoring chance numbers:
18th in SC shot %
26th in SC save %

Which kinda seems to validate the eye test and board complaints about "shooting into the goalie's crest" and giving up morale-sapping cheap goals.

 

[Lempo]

I never knew that we weren't allowed to wish injury on someone.

We aren't even allowed to suggest that we pass the hat for [a fined player] for double sum so he can already pay in for the next time too.

On completely unrelated matter, Corey Matthews and Perry Mason are characters on some TV shows.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Bob is sitting tonight, you will have Korpi Big Rebound.

Give us your worst, and we'll play our worst.

-Rod Brind'amour

 

[HisIceness]

Just f***ing win damn it.

 

[CandyCanes]

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What the Faulk, stop being Aho

 

[Unsustainable]

no, that just gives me more ideas

I like the way you think