Proposal: Boeser to NYI

[blinkman360]

He wasn’t signed under this speedier, more open offensive era. He was signed just before it and the realization that this is the game now, ie last season. The bubble and shortened season were still indicative of the ‘older’ ‘new’ NHL that he was better suited for and should still produce at at 15/35/40 clip. Now, the stakes are higher and he’s not gonna be able to do it.

The cap squeezed out a lot of dead weight, placed an emphasis on cheaper, youth, and long term deals earlier in time, which tilted things towards speed, but also more mistakes, which results in more scoring.

I think the things we’ll have going for us in any Pulock deal are the fact that the rest of the league knows how good he is, and they know he has a monster shot. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are a few teams that think they can maximize his offense in a way we haven’t.

Even if they think he is what he is offensively, I doubt it will scare many teams off. At the end of the day he’s still arguably a #2, RHD which is always in demand, locked in at just over $6M for a long time and he’s only what? 27? If the rumors are true and the cap starts to rise again, that’s really nothing for a top pairing D. Even if a team wants him to anchor their 2nd as a high end #3, IMO you can still live with him making that money.

Think of how many guys on 3rd lines are making $5M+.

 

[SI]

If the Isles can resign Mayfield at $4.5M, then I would trade Pulock for help up front. Pulock pairs very well with Pelech, but Pelech is doing most of the work on that pair. Isles can replace that spot with another d-man like a Brendan Dillon type or heck, Klingberg is gonna be desperate for a long term deal - maybe 4years in an attempt to make up for his agent botching his UFA.

Pulock was paid to produce offensively and it’s apparent that while he has a hard shot, he misses the net too much killing momentum and keeping the puck down low, doesn’t shoot enough, and his wind up is slow. Dobson is smooth and looks to get the shot on net and a majority of the time he does, no matter the velocity he’s getting it on net to keep the play in front of the G where a F can do the rest of the work.

He’s not going anywhere though, he fits Lou’s mold, he does play well defensively, and has a NTC. I just don’t see how his performance is really going to match his contract that should be in the 15G 40/50A range in this era at a minimum.

How is Pulock going to get 50-60 points when he is NOT getting top PP minutes? Or even 2nd PP minutes? d men who produce those numbers are getting 9+ m a year.

If you want a comparable player - it is Jacob Trouba, who gets 2 m more than Pulock.

And what is a Brendan Dillon type? A LHD bottom pairing d man is replacing Pulock as the RH side of a shutdown pair? RHD is a prime commodity go ask the Leafs, jets, Canucks. if they move Pulock, then Mayfield Slots in right there before a Brendan Dillon or his type.

 

[SI]

He wasn’t signed under this speedier, more open offensive era. He was signed just before it and the realization that this is the game now, ie last season. The bubble and shortened season were still indicative of the ‘older’ ‘new’ NHL that he was better suited for and should still produce at at 15/35/40 clip. Now, the stakes are higher and he’s not gonna be able to do it.

The cap squeezed out a lot of dead weight, placed an emphasis on cheaper, youth, and long term deals earlier in time, which tilted things towards speed, but also more mistakes, which results in more scoring.

You don’t know what you are talking about!

 

[LeapOnOver]

You don’t know what you are talking about!

Not sure what part of the quote you are talking about, but he's literally quoting Trotz verbatim about speedier younger players in the league with a lack of puck responsibility causing an uptick in scoring. So he knows what he is talking about there, unless you think Trotz doesn't. His thoughts on Pulock are iffy. Guy plays up to his salary no doubt. The value is absolutely there and I have no qualms with his contract.

 

[Throttle]

How is Pulock going to get 50-60 points when he is NOT getting top PP minutes? Or even 2nd PP minutes? d men who produce those numbers are getting 9+ m a year.

If you want a comparable player - it is Jacob Trouba, who gets 2 m more than Pulock.

And what is a Brendan Dillon type? A LHD bottom pairing d man is replacing Pulock as the RH side of a shutdown pair? RHD is a prime commodity go ask the Leafs, jets, Canucks. if they move Pulock, then Mayfield Slots in right there before a Brendan Dillon or his type.

Why do you think he’s not getting top PP minutes despite all those factors?

He’s not gonna get traded, but there is a way he can be traded and the Isles can backfill it via resigning Mayfield and acquiring a lower end d-man.

 

[MJF]

Why do you think he’s not getting top PP minutes despite all those factors?

He’s not gonna get traded, but there is a way he can be traded and the Isles can backfill it via resigning Mayfield and acquiring a lower end d-man.

If Samuel Bolduc shows that he can play this season IN THE AHL without dropoff in production, he might be a real prospect to free up Pulock for a trade next year.

 

[Throttle]

If Samuel Bolduc shows that he can play this season IN THE AHL without dropoff in production, he might be a real prospect to free up Pulock for a trade next year.

That would work with some risk, but the Isles are gonna have to give to get and sacrificing someone like Pulock can bring back a higher end forward.

I just think Pulock’s offensive contribution is tapped out and not going to improve much, this faster game doesn’t work in his favor. The players can get to him a lot quicker and with his slow arse wind up, he’s gonna be limited on top of his poor accuracy already. A guy like him trying to shoot faster is not gonna get more accurate, gonna be just the opposite.

Look at Dobson, he’s learned, he thinks faster, but he’s also learned to just move the puck towards the net. Pulock just doesn’t do that.

 

[MJF]

That would work with some risk, but the Isles are gonna have to give to get and sacrificing someone like Pulock can bring back a higher end forward.

I just think Pulock’s offensive contribution is tapped out and not going to improve much, this faster game doesn’t work in his favor. The players can get to him a lot quicker and with his slow arse wind up, he’s gonna be limited on top of his poor accuracy already. A guy like him trying to shoot faster is not gonna get more accurate, gonna be just the opposite.

Look at Dobson, he’s learned, he thinks faster, but he’s also learned to just move the puck towards the net. Pulock just doesn’t do that.

The idea is to replace Pulock in house. There will always be some risk in dipping into the system to replace a top defenseman, but this is one way we can use the existing talent to fill a hole the Isles haven’t been able to fill.

 

[SI]

Why do you think he’s not getting top PP minutes despite all those factors?

He’s not gonna get traded, but there is a way he can be traded and the Isles can backfill it via resigning Mayfield and acquiring a lower end d-man.

Because Dobson runs the PP, not Pulock and to expect that type of production without having top PP minutes is not grounded. Even with 2nd PP minutes it is a tall task to expect that type production on the 5on5. A top pairing RHD - in the shutdown pair in his late 20's, who logs 20-22 minutes a night and produces 5-10 goals and 25-35 points without big PP time... is worth every penny of that 6.15!

6.15 for RHD which is part of your shutdown pair is not something you move.
Teams overpay for a player like that - hell Tyler Myers got 6/6 a few years ago... look at Gudbranson's contract.

Not sure what part of the quote you are talking about, but he's literally quoting Trotz verbatim about speedier younger players in the league with a lack of puck responsibility causing an uptick in scoring. So he knows what he is talking about there, unless you think Trotz doesn't. His thoughts on Pulock are iffy. Guy plays up to his salary no doubt. The value is absolutely there and I have no qualms with his contract.

It's not a NEW thing since Covid - that style of play has been trending for years! The hockey world did not just immediately shift. my comment was based on THAT and his hot take on Pulock.

Glad we agree on Pulock.

 

[SI]

If Samuel Bolduc shows that he can play this season IN THE AHL without dropoff in production, he might be a real prospect to free up Pulock for a trade next year.

He has a full NTC, not happening.

And it shouldn't. So many teams struggling to fill that piece in their roster.
And using that as away to think we can get something incredible for him - is not sound.
The Canucks are not trading Pettersson for Pulock.