Blues Trade Proposals Part XXXIII

[Klank Loves You]

I know he has pretty low value, but would Dallas be interested in Jaskin?

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

I know he has pretty low value, but would Dallas be interested in Jaskin?

I kinda doubt it. I'm not really interested in anything they've got either. But there's also the Hitch factor, so I guess it's plausible

 

[Stealth JD]

Exactly. I was the one who said don't mention Matthews. You are throwing fuel on the fire to encite the slightly more rational Leafs fans. The thread is dying and its always someone who bumps it from the 2nd page to say "Matthews" and then the thread goes for 4 more pages before its shut down.

"Eventually they'll get the point"? Do you know the definition of insanity? Repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result. They post a bad Parayko offer. One of us says Matthews hoping to kill the thread and stop future Parayko asks. Neither happens. Rinse and repeat ad nauseum. Either you all are crazy for expecting it to stop, or you all secretly like antagonizing each other.

It's not...but for some reason this is fun to trumpet repeatedly on the internet.
(not just you M1, people use this ridiculous saying ad nauseam)

 

[Majorityof1]

It's not...but for some reason this is fun to trumpet repeatedly on the internet.
(not just you M1, people use this ridiculous saying ad nauseam)

I know its not the legal definition of insanity. Its a frickin aphorism and not meant to be taken literally. I can't believe I am arguing this, but I do like to argue so....as for the article, its wrong. If you repeatedly do the same behavior, and expect different results, you are an idiot, or you are delusional. Maybe its not the legal or clinical definition of insanity, but it works in practice. As an aphorism is only meant to outline a general truth, not a legal definition. The saying doesn't tell you to stop trying to achieve a goal, but to vary the method. Using his examples, if you ask the same girl out, with the same pick-up line in the same place time-after-time, the result is very unlikely to change. Try a different tactic to ask her out, or a different girl. You'll have better results. Rudy did not do the same thing every time. He went to ND's sister campus and improved himself to have a better application. If Mother Teresea truly expects to cure world hunger and poverty by feeding a couple people every day, she is delusional. Most likely she knows its a drop in the bucket and doesn't expect different results, but the results she gets are worth the effort to her.

In the case at hand, people already admitted they like throwing fuel on the fire. So they aren't really expecting things to change.

 

[Thallis]

I know its not the legal definition of insanity. Its a frickin aphorism and not meant to be taken literally. I can't believe I am arguing this, but I do like to argue so....as for the article, its wrong. If you repeatedly do the same behavior, and expect different results, you are an idiot, or you are delusional. Maybe its not the legal or clinical definition of insanity, but it works in practice. As an aphorism is only meant to outline a general truth, not a legal definition. The saying doesn't tell you to stop trying to achieve a goal, but to vary the method. Using his examples, if you ask the same girl out, with the same pick-up line in the same place time-after-time, the result is very unlikely to change. Try a different tactic to ask her out, or a different girl. You'll have better results. Rudy did not do the same thing every time. He went to ND's sister campus and improved himself to have a better application. If Mother Teresea truly expects to cure world hunger and poverty by feeding a couple people every day, she is delusional. Most likely she knows its a drop in the bucket and doesn't expect different results, but the results she gets are worth the effort to her.

In the case at hand, people already admitted they like throwing fuel on the fire. So they aren't really expecting things to change.

The society we live in was literally founded on and improved by doing this.

 

[Ranksu]

We fall in mediocre level team in central div. with Fabbri out. This also means we're not gonna trade Berglund. FFS.

 

[David Dennison]

Anderson from CBJ requested a trade. Should the Blues kick the tires, or are we too much against the cap? Or would he be another overpaid 3rd liner for us?

 

[Alklha]

Anderson from CBJ requested a trade. Should the Blues kick the tires, or are we too much against the cap? Or would he be another overpaid 3rd liner for us?

He would be an overpaid third liner. He has requested a trade because he is drinking his agents Kool-Aid; Ferris obviously has him convinced he is worth more than he actually is. I'm pinning it on Ferris because he has a lot of previous for this.

 

[Ranksu]

CURRENT CAP SPACE

$2,205,833
PROJECTED CAP SPACE

$2,205,833

Is Berglund LTIR or IR?

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/blues

So can we even afford to give Jagr contract and what happends when Berglund comes back end of 2017 or Jan. 2017?

 

[Dbrownss]

From what I understand. Berglund cant be on LTIR till opening day

 

[Evocable Manager]

The Leafs currently are loaded with wingers and could probably use getting rid of one.

Leivo would be a decent target. Good offensive instincts and a decent middle six winger, who, if given power play time, could probably post over 15 goals and 30 points. Can play either wing as well. He's waiver eligible but at 24 isn't too old and won't cost too much.

With all the injuries, might be an option.

 

[CaliforniaBlues310]

What about Nyquist?

 

[Dbrownss]

I think any significant salary will be a no go. Gunnarson is the only one thats "expendable" at this point...and thats not something I would say with a shred certainty anymore.

 

[The Note in MI]

What are the odds blues make a move for duchene?

Fixes our top 6 center depth. We would have to move salary, but I'm sure we could manage. Something like gunarsson, Thompson/Kyrou + pick seems like a reasonable offer, though we lack leverage with our injury situation

 

[tfriede2]

What are the odds blues make a move for duchene?

Fixes our top 6 center depth. We would have to move salary, but I'm sure we could manage. Something like gunarsson, Thompson/Kyrou + pick seems like a reasonable offer, though we lack leverage with our injury situation

It's been reported that Sakic turned down Hamonic, top prospect, and 1st (if that's true, then wow)...this offer isn't close to that. I think if we could get Duchene for this package, it would have been done already.

 

[PiggySmalls]

Only way I see the Blues having the space to even target Duchene is to include Stastny in the trade. He is in his final year and would no doubt be a top target come the trade deadline, Paul's wife and daughter still live in Denver so I doubt he would nix the trade. So Avs can see him as veteran leadership for the kids up until TDL and then should bring them a decent return at deadline. So that is one way Army can try to sell Sakic on it. Outside of Parayko I can only see Dunn/Walman as acceptable D prospects to include in a package but not main pieces.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

What are the odds blues make a move for duchene?

Fixes our top 6 center depth. We would have to move salary, but I'm sure we could manage. Something like gunarsson, Thompson/Kyrou + pick seems like a reasonable offer, though we lack leverage with our injury situation

I don't think that's near enough given what Sakic's demands have reportedly been. And I think someone else would pretty handily beat that offer anyway. If we could get him super cheap then I'd be all for it. But I just don't see that happening.

 

[TheBluePenguin]

Only way I see the Blues having the space to even target Duchene is to include Stastny in the trade. He is in his final year and would no doubt be a top target come the trade deadline, Paul's wife and daughter still live in Denver so I doubt he would nix the trade. So Avs can see him as veteran leadership for the kids up until TDL and then should bring them a decent return at deadline. So that is one way Army can try to sell Sakic on it. Outside of Parayko I can only see Dunn/Walman as acceptable D prospects to include in a package but not main pieces.

I just think if Sakic wanted something reasonable the trade would have happened by now.

 

[BleedBlue14]

Am I the only one that is still along the train of thought that if we needed to make a move Bozak is a pretty logical target? Unless we are deadest that Schenn is good to play Center instead of RW I don't think Bozak would cost all that much either. would allow us to run a top 6 of :

Schwartz - Stas - Tank
Sobotka - Bozak - Schenn

Also it gives us a RHS in the lineup which I mean isn't that big of a deal but it's a nice change of scenery.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Am I the only one that is still along the train of thought that if we needed to make a move Bozak is a pretty logical target? Unless we are deadest that Schenn is good to play Center instead of RW I don't think Bozak would cost all that much either. would allow us to run a top 6 of :

Schwartz - Stas - Tank
Sobotka - Bozak - Schenn

Also it gives us a RHS in the lineup which I mean isn't that big of a deal but it's a nice change of scenery.

I'd rather play Barbashev there than pay resources to get Bozak.

 

[BleedBlue14]

I'd rather play Barbashev there than pay resources to get Bozak.

Are you comfortable with playing Megan/Sundqvist as well then? I think that this is the bigger question. I love Barbashev as well and think he'd do fine in that role. The other two i'm not so sure they can hold down the fort until December.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Are you comfortable with playing Megan/Sundqvist as well then? I think that this is the bigger question. I love Barbashev as well and think he'd do fine in that role. The other two i'm not so sure they can hold down the fort until December.

Steen will return before then and will push Sobotka down to the 3rd line Center. I'm totally fine with not making a move for a bit until we see what we have in the kids.

Schwartz/Steen-Stastny-Tarasenko
Schwartz/Steen-Barbashev-Schenn
Blais-Sobotka-Jaskin/PRV/Megan/ect/ect

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

The Leafs currently are loaded with wingers and could probably use getting rid of one.

Leivo would be a decent target. Good offensive instincts and a decent middle six winger, who, if given power play time, could probably post over 15 goals and 30 points. Can play either wing as well. He's waiver eligible but at 24 isn't too old and won't cost too much.

With all the injuries, might be an option.

Leivo is awesome, he'd be a great stopgap. Kills penalties too IIRC. Without looking at cap friendly, we might just have to wait for them to put him on waivers tho. Not sure there would be better waiver wire guys out there right now

 

[BleedBlue14]

Steen will return before then and will push Sobotka down to the 3rd line Center. I'm totally fine with not making a move for a bit until we see what we have in the kids.

Schwartz/Steen-Stastny-Tarasenko
Schwartz/Steen-Barbashev-Schenn
Blais-Sobotka-Jaskin/PRV/Megan/ect/ect

Agreed that would be the better option. I'm more worried about other injuries popping up as well. Seems like every year we get slammed with top 6 players getting injured for a month or so. This year is definitely not an exception and the season hasn't even started.

Maybe this discussion is better suited for down the line

 

[Itsnotatrap]

Anderson from CBJ requested a trade. Should the Blues kick the tires, or are we too much against the cap? Or would he be another overpaid 3rd liner for us?

It seems like his situation is more that he is a straight up tough sign. Athanasiou is more a result of Detroit's terrible cap management boxing themselves in. I'd lean that direction.