Rumor: Blackhawks engaging with teams in trade talks for Patrick Kane, Stars among the interested

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Chicago wouldn't retain on Jones, kane I could see that as a possibility.

In this scenario Chicago isn't retaining on Jones, Only 50% on Patrick Kane.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Why does Chicago do that?

Prospects. Moving ok from someone who doesn't want to be there. To get out of Toews' contract.

 

[Space umpire]

Prospects. Moving ok from someone who doesn't want to be there. To get out of Toews' contract.

The only mention of prospect by you and I quote is a “long shot prospect”.

 

[12ozPapa]

Is there a solid cab business in AZ?

 

[JPeeper]

Would make a great Gaudreau replacement, Flames offer a river of tears from losing Gaudreau and Tkachuk.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Gotta think any Kane to DAL trade involves Khudobin's contract going to CHI and 50% retaining.

Dallas would be giving up some lofty pieces though.

Toews is going to cry

Good. Maybe he can deny being sad too.

 

[vipera1960]

Unlikely. The Rangers have no cap space. The only way it could work is if it's Kane@50% with Goodrow and Reaves going the other way, but Goodrow has a 15 team NTC and we'd have to run a 21 man roster instead of 22. Plus I doubt Chicago is looking to take back a contract with that much term left.

Which is why this is utter nonsense. There is no way he gets moved now unless a top 5-10 league wide prospect is coming back. Otherwise might as well wait until the trade deadline when there are 4-5-6-10 teams that could make it work.

 

[Thechozen1]

Kane is not bringing back a blue-chip prospect like Johnston. When you look at MaxPax going for nothing and Bjorkstrand going for a 3rd and 4th round pick, you can see the value of wingers. Vancouver can't get what they want for Miller and he can play center. I'd be surprised if they get anything more than a protected 1st and b-level prospect. Hope I'm wrong. Hope Kane doesn't end up in Dallas too.

Vegas and Columbus dumped those players because they needed to clear cap space. It is in no way indicative of their true value. Chicago on the other hand is not in dire need of cap space so the will get returns on these players. More so on Kane, but Toews with 50% retention at the deadline should garner a 1st from a contender.

 

[Drew311]

"Hearing" is just about the most vague way of announcing a rumour. He could have heard it from his plumber. He's not lying because technically he did hear it somewhere.

 

[MrHeiskanen]

I don't really understand it for Dallas. I love Kane, but I don't see Dallas as a legitimate contender even with Kane. I feel like Dallas should be focused on getting younger.

Dallas average age is 27.7 (without Johnston/or any rookie in the lineup) how young do they need to get exactly?

 

[x Tame Impala]

I want to see Kane on Pittsburgh personally.

 

[byrath]

Dallas average age is 27.7 (without Johnston/or any rookie in the lineup) how young do they need to get exactly?

'Get younger' is pretty much code for rebuild/tank, and as we all know here on HF, 20+ teams should all be actively trying to suck at the same time

 

[CupsOverCash]

Tampa

 

[yzerman]

Buffalo should afford him pretty easy

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

Buffalo should afford him pretty easy

Still an outstanding player, but lots of reasons why he wouldn't be a great fit.

Sabres aren't nearly ready to contend, and Kane is a last-piece-of-the-puzzle guy at this stage. At 34 next season, he doesn't fit Sabres' core age group. Super young team already has plenty of vet leadership in Okposo, Girgensons, Skinner, Anderson. Buffalo is building a team of low-ego, high-character players; bringing in a guy who would immediately suck the oxygen from the room would be an unwelcome departure imho.

 

[yzerman]

Still an outstanding player, but lots of reasons why he wouldn't be a great fit.

Sabres aren't nearly ready to contend, and Kane is a last-piece-of-the-puzzle guy at this stage. At 34 next season, he doesn't fit Sabres' core age group. Super young team already has plenty of vet leadership in Okposo, Girgensons, Skinner, Anderson. Buffalo is building a team of low-ego, high-character players; bringing in a guy who would immediately suck the oxygen from the room would be an unwelcome departure imho.

Yes im with you but would be nice to se Kane in Buffalo with the youngsters and Hockey would be back for real again they are really worth it in a real hockeytown.

 

[ijuka]

Why do you tag speculation as rumor?

 

[Taylorst]

Kane is not bringing back a blue-chip prospect like Johnston. When you look at MaxPax going for nothing and Bjorkstrand going for a 3rd and 4th round pick, you can see the value of wingers. Vancouver can't get what they want for Miller and he can play center. I'd be surprised if they get anything more than a protected 1st and b-level prospect. Hope I'm wrong. Hope Kane doesn't end up in Dallas too.

Your comparison is not founded in pure statistics and level of talent. Kane had a off year last year and still produced 92 points on a garbage team. Kane clearly has more extremely productive years left at a very high level. How many 33 year Olds in the nhl are even close to producing 90 plus points ?

 

[Gruyeriev]

Avs offer JT Compher and a 2023 1st for Kane at 50%.

Don’t need to offer more and don’t have more to offer. This is a want. Not a need. Dude has a NTC so he can pick his destination. If he goes somewhere else, no biggie. Scoring winger trade value has never been lower than this off-season.

Cool can Kane play 2C?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Avs offer JT Compher and a 2023 1st for Kane at 50%.

Don’t need to offer more and don’t have more to offer. This is a want. Not a need. Dude has a NTC so he can pick his destination. If he goes somewhere else, no biggie. Scoring winger trade value has never been lower than this off-season.

How can Chicago say no to that.

 

[John Mandalorian]

How can Chicago say no to that.

Compher is one of you. Rejecting Compher is like rejecting your neighbor. He probably has Lou Malnati's flown in once a week.

 

[Unspecified]

Kane @ 50% ($5.25M x 1)

for

Khudobin ($3.3M x 1)
Faksa ($3.25M x 3)
2023 1st
2025 1st

That leaves the Stars over $12M to sign Robertson and have some pocket change left.

Edit: oops - forgot about Oettinger - might have to include Gurianov.

No way Dallas is giving next years 1st. Gurianov would have to be included with Dobby and Faksa.

 

[McJedi]

Cool can Kane play 2C?

Rantanen can. This guy can be his winger.

 

[EbonyRaptor]

Rantanen can. This guy can be his winger.

The Avs weren't hurting for offense last season - that's for sure, but they lost Kadri (at least so far) and that's a big loss in the scoring department. Kane won't replace him as a center, but he can certainly replace the offensive output and maybe even provide more.

I'm going to hate seeing Kane playing for another team but trading him is the right move for the rebuild and it seems inevitable at this point anyway - so Colorado would be a team I would like to see him go to. Seeing him playing with guys like MacKinnon, Rantenan, or with the dynamic duo on Edmonton or back with Panarin on the Rangers. Much rather see him playing where he can play with top players and thrive with a chance to win than some middling team who happened to pony up the best trade offer.

 

[kilowatt]

Kings should be in on this if they can. They'd need to send some salary back the other way — maybe Iafallo or Petersen — but I could certainly see LA's first and Alex Turcotte headed the other way. Why not?

Kempe - Kopitar - Kane
Fiala - Byfield - Kaliyev
Moore - Danault - Arvidsson
Lemieux - Lizotte - Grundstrom