best young D
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Evilo said:
Doubt Welch is the best college player and doubt even further more that Goli is 2nd. Carle has the beat.
Goli isn't in the group with Welch and Carle .
Welch is good but he is a Senior ,
Carle is a SOPHMORE
and is the best D on the 2x NCAA champions and considered the leading Dman for the 06 Hobie Baker best college player as a Junior , AHCA West first team and West, Dman of the Year 05 , Inside College Dman of the year 05 ,
Not to mention:-- 2005 Frozen Four All-Tournament Team • Inside College Hockey All-American First-Team honors • CCM West All-American First Team • 2005 NCAA Northeast Regional All-Tournament Team • All-USCHO First Team honors • All-WCHA First Team • recipient of the Keith Magnuson Memorial Award as Denver's Best Defensive Player
Not to mention: awarded 2002-03 USHL Defenseman of the Year and was named to the All-USHL first team and Rookie team as a ROOKIE•
two seasons the U.S. National Team Development Program • U.S. Under-18 gold medal Team in 2002 Under-18 Championships • • 2000-01 U-17 World Champion U.S. National U-17 Team
Welch is good but he is a Senior ,
Carle is a SOPHMORE
and is the best D on the 2x NCAA champions and considered the leading Dman for the 06 Hobie Baker best college player as a Junior , AHCA West first team and West, Dman of the Year 05 , Inside College Dman of the year 05 ,
Not to mention:-- 2005 Frozen Four All-Tournament Team • Inside College Hockey All-American First-Team honors • CCM West All-American First Team • 2005 NCAA Northeast Regional All-Tournament Team • All-USCHO First Team honors • All-WCHA First Team • recipient of the Keith Magnuson Memorial Award as Denver's Best Defensive Player
Not to mention: awarded 2002-03 USHL Defenseman of the Year and was named to the All-USHL first team and Rookie team as a ROOKIE•
two seasons the U.S. National Team Development Program • U.S. Under-18 gold medal Team in 2002 Under-18 Championships • • 2000-01 U-17 World Champion U.S. National U-17 Team
Man, I've always been amazed by your bias with Penguins, but this list may be one of the worst I've ever seen on these boards.
Either you're joking, or you're the worst homer ever. Ever.
Either you're joking, or you're the worst homer ever. Ever.
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Evilo said:
Why don't you explain why Fernholm is ranked above Klein? And also why Nemec is ranked above Parent?
What do you see their upsides being, as compared with Klein and Parent?
Evilo said:
Okay I was harsh... but come on... please take a serious look again at your list :
1- Suter
2- Whitney
3- Welch
4- Weber
5- Goligoski
6- Fernholm
7- Klein
8- Nemec
9- Parent
10- Bissonnette
Weber at 4th ? Shea Weber is on par with Ryan Whitney. You can make a case either way, I personally would take Weber with no hesitation, and I can live if you prefer Whitney... but there is no way Weber is 4th.
Ryan Parent, Kevin Klein and Noah Welch are more or less of equal value. They should serve as solid top-4 D, and all three have a promissing NHL career ahead. Welch is 3rd, Parent is 9th ? This can't be serious.
You didn't even care to mention Teemu Laakso. This is absolutly brutal when you name Bissonnette or Nemec in the top-ten. Laakso is arguably on par with Fernholm, who is 6th on your list. Actually both have comparable profiles since both had injury troubles and felt in the draft, but both have talent to be a top-4 D one day and I see no serious reason to put Fernholm at 6th while Laakso isn't even here.
And if Bissonnette and Nemec are in the list, you can make a case Kulyash or Sulzer should be here too. Yet you even achieve to put Nemec above Parent...
In short, I hate being so harsh, but your list is just horrible. You seriously have a huge, huge homerism problem...
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Sykie said:Okay I was harsh... but come on... please take a serious look again at your list :
1- Suter
2- Whitney
3- Welch
4- Weber
5- Goligoski
6- Fernholm
7- Klein
8- Nemec
9- Parent
10- Bissonnette
Weber at 4th ? Shea Weber is on par with Ryan Whitney. You can make a case either way, I personally would take Weber with no hesitation, and I can live if you prefer Whitney... but there is no way Weber is 4th.
Ryan Parent, Kevin Klein and Noah Welch are more or less of equal value. They should serve as solid top-4 D, and all three have a promissing NHL career ahead. Welch is 3rd, Parent is 9th ? This can't be serious.
You didn't even care to mention Teemu Laakso. This is absolutly brutal when you name Bissonnette or Nemec in the top-ten. Laakso is arguably on par with Fernholm, who is 6th on your list. Actually both have comparable profiles since both had injury troubles and felt in the draft, but both have talent to be a top-4 D one day and I see no serious reason to put Fernholm at 6th while Laakso isn't even here.
And if Bissonnette and Nemec are in the list, you can make a case Kulyash or Sulzer should be here too. Yet you even achieve to put Nemec above Parent...
In short, I hate being so harsh, but your list is just horrible. You seriously have a huge, huge homerism problem...
ya think?
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Nashville moved ahead of Chicago IMO this year by adding Parent. He is a very solid bet to be good at the NHL level. Before this, i though Chicago and Nashville were equal, but this puts nashville over the top.
Chicago already had enough good dman in the system. They didn't need another at 7 overall. I'm more than thrilled with Skille and wouldn't trade him for Brian Lee or another other dman at this point in time.
Nashville can stock pile all the dman they want. Chicago needed some forwards and got 5 pretty good ones in 05.
No one ever mentions Duncan Keith. He's the odds on favourite for the Hawks #6 this year. I guess he's Hawk fans little secret.
Nashville can stock pile all the dman they want. Chicago needed some forwards and got 5 pretty good ones in 05.
No one ever mentions Duncan Keith. He's the odds on favourite for the Hawks #6 this year. I guess he's Hawk fans little secret.
Evilo said:
So? he still wasn't the "second best defenseman in college" like was claimed.
don't make stupid claims if you can't even stick to them
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