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BigBadBruins63*

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What's the early consensus on who the top 3 will be at this years draft?

Matthews, Chrychun, Puljujärvi?

The first two are locks. Not sure who #3 is, but he'd be my choice, right now.

Doesn't matter, we may all joke about hopefully the Bruins sucking and getting the #1 pick, but we all know that if ARZ is in the running, they will get the pick, b/c Bettman desperately wants to keep hockey in the desert, and Matthews is the hometown kid.

With the new lottery, Bruins could finish with the worst record and least amount of points, and they'd end up in spot #4 just b/c that's how their luck is.
 

Mainehockey33

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Matthews, Chrychun, Puljujärvi?

The first two are locks. Not sure who #3 is, but he'd be my choice, right now.

Doesn't matter, we may all joke about hopefully the Bruins sucking and getting the #1 pick, but we all know that if ARZ is in the running, they will get the pick, b/c Bettman desperately wants to keep hockey in the desert, and Matthews is the hometown kid.

With the new lottery, Bruins could finish with the worst record and least amount of points, and they'd end up in spot #4 just b/c that's how their luck is.

For sure, but with our pick and San Jose's pick, it's not crazy to think we can get a top 5 pick. Plus if we keep up the suck, we could trade players for more picks.
 

BigBadBruins63*

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For sure, but with our pick and San Jose's pick, it's not crazy to think we can get a top 5 pick. Plus if we keep up the suck, we could trade players for more picks.

It's early, for both teams, but SJS has looked good and Jones has been very impressive so far.
 

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Other than New Jersey, Carolina, and Toronto who do we have a better roster than?

Personally, I pegged this team for 88-92 points. But as injuries and dog luck mounts, maybe I am too optimistic.

I believed that the Bruins would be in the pack competing for the final spot in the East with Buffalo, Florida, Philly and Ottawa. However, as I stated, for Boston to make it they'd need a huge rebound from Chara, and Krejci.

It's conceivable that because Don Sweeney kept the elders instead of going young, that we could be in for a longer turn around than first imagined.

This could be the dark ages and it could last a couple, three years; so who knows, maybe some great picks in the next couple of seasons?
 

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Trade Loui for a first to a team that doesn't make the playoffs.
Win all three lotteries.
Draft Matthews, Chychrun, and whoever number 3 is.
...Profit.
 

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I look forward to the draft lottery, when the Bruins, who will have the worst record of the year, get screwed out of Matthews and Chrychun, and end up picking 4th. Add to that, SJS's perceived top 15 pick, will be a 25-30 range. Because, Bruins.
 

Boston BROin

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It's absolutely disgusting that we are talking about a lottery pick at this point. The Bruins JUST HAD a ****ing lottery pick while being one of the best teams in the league. How often does a team get that lucky? How do you **** everything up so quickly?
 

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It's absolutely disgusting that we are talking about a lottery pick at this point. The Bruins JUST HAD a ****ing lottery pick while being one of the best teams in the league. How often does a team get that lucky? How do you **** everything up so quickly?

Karma for having so much fun at the Leafs expense? What a fall it's been in a few short years when we should have been set up for a decade thanks to Burke.
 

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Trading Seguin still is the most idiotic thing the management could do. That trade will hunt us for a decade.
 

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With the new lotto, Bruins fans have to hope they don't get "Tim Duncan'd"
 

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If Chychrun is truly going to be a stud, elite dman, they'd be stupid to take Matthews over him. Elite dmen win you cups. Elite forwards won't.

In fact, looking at each of the cup champs since The Lockout, every single team except two had an elite dman (Pronger, Lidstrom, Keith x3, Chara, Doughty x2). Of the two, one had a Conn Smythe goalie and the other had C depth of Crosby Malkin Staal. And both of them beat out a team in game 7 who had an elite dman (Pronger and Lidstrom).

You take the D, every time guys. I'm sure Matthews will be a spectacular player. But so is Tavares. And Ovechkin. And Stamkos. And Nash. And Giroux.
 

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If Chychrun is truly going to be a stud, elite dman, they'd be stupid to take Matthews over him. Elite dmen win you cups. Elite forwards won't.

In fact, looking at each of the cup champs since The Lockout, every single team except two had an elite dman (Pronger, Lidstrom, Keith x3, Chara, Doughty x2). Of the two, one had a Conn Smythe goalie and the other had C depth of Crosby Malkin Staal. And both of them beat out a team in game 7 who had an elite dman (Pronger and Lidstrom).

You take the D, every time guys. I'm sure Matthews will be a spectacular player. But so is Tavares. And Ovechkin. And Stamkos. And Nash. And Giroux.

Let's hope San Jose sucks so we don't have to choose !
 

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If Chychrun is truly going to be a stud, elite dman, they'd be stupid to take Matthews over him. Elite dmen win you cups. Elite forwards won't.

In fact, looking at each of the cup champs since The Lockout, every single team except two had an elite dman (Pronger, Lidstrom, Keith x3, Chara, Doughty x2). Of the two, one had a Conn Smythe goalie and the other had C depth of Crosby Malkin Staal. And both of them beat out a team in game 7 who had an elite dman (Pronger and Lidstrom).

You take the D, every time guys. I'm sure Matthews will be a spectacular player. But so is Tavares. And Ovechkin. And Stamkos. And Nash. And Giroux.

You'd take Chris Pronger over Tavares, Ovechkin, Stamkos, or Crosby? Seriously?

Matthews, like McDavid, is considered a slam dunk franchise player, much like these players. This isn't a year where Yakupov tops the class. Matthews can match Jack Eichel stride for stride, a guy who arguably can match McDavid stride for stride, who himself is considered not just franchise, but a generational player like Crosby.

Look, you won't find a bigger fan of Chychrun on here than me; I think he's going to be a stud. But D are far more risky in drafts; there are far more busts than booms, in terms of top draft pics. For every Lidstrom, you'll find 5 Griffin Reinharts or Cam Barkers or Lars Jonssons or Klefbooms; elite rated D that fizzle.

That's why absolutely no one predicted, or even suggested, that Noah Hanifin would be drafted before McDavid or Eichel, despite often rated as a clear #3 overall and projected as a stud #1 D. Like most top D men in drafts, who are historically more risky, Hanifin actually fell places to 5th overall drafted.

If we get #1, it's an absolute no brainer to take Matthews.

But if we get #2, we take Chychrun over anyone else.
 
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Daishi

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Trading Seguin still is the most idiotic thing the management could do. That trade will hunt us for a decade.

The sickest thing is that it really isn't that long ago when many posters kept ranting how this trade will haunt us forever, and were responded by the usual suspects claiming that it's nonsense and that the Bruins are a rock solid franchise that will remain competitive. Now, just a year removed from those discussions, the Bruins have one of the worst teams in the league and the fans are dreaming about future lottery picks. Insult to injury, the same guys who said we won't miss Seguin are now preaching patience and telling us to just wait 3 years for us to be competitive again. I mean which is it? Are we competitive? Are we rebuilding? People kept making fun of Seguin's new club because they couldn't even make the playoffs, yet now they're in a much better place than the Bruins are.

I'm getting the feeling that just like many may enjoy complaining, there's a bunch of guys here who just enjoy complaining about anyone who isn't a blind optimist.

I'd like to see the Seguin and Hamilton haters show up and admit they were wrong. Admit that the management had no clue what they were doing. Admit that as fans you were in the wrong to trust the management without actually thinking for yourself, and in the wrong to claim that the Bruins would remain competitive no matter what.
 

81ragnaH

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You'd take Chris Pronger over Tavares, Ovechkin, Stamkos, or Crosby? Seriously?

Matthews, like McDavid, is considered a slam dunk franchise player, much like these players. This isn't a year where Yakupov tops the class. Matthews can match Jack Eichel stride for stride, a guy who arguably can match McDavid stride for stride, who himself is considered not just franchise, but a generational player like Crosby.

Look, you won't find a bigger fan of Chychrun on here than me; I think he's going to be a stud. But D are far more risky in drafts; there are far more busts than booms, in terms of top draft pics. For every Lidstrom, you'll find 5 Griffin Reinharts or Cam Barkers or Lars Jonssons or Klefbooms; elite rated D that fizzle.

That's why absolutely no one predicted, or even suggested, that Noah Hanifin would be drafted before McDavid or Eichel, despite often rated as a clear #3 overall and projected as a stud #1 D. Like most top D men in drafts, who are historically more risky, Hanifin actually fell places to 5th overall drafted.

If we get #1, it's an absolute no brainer to take Matthews.

But if we get #2, we take Chychrun over anyone else.

To answer your first question, yes, absolutely I would. Pronger has played in the Stanley Cup Finals with 3 different teams, two of which had no business even getting there. That equals everyone you listed combined. And that's not an accident.

For the rest, see the caveat at the beginning of my sentence: IF he is going to be a stud elite #1. I understand they're risks. But from what I've read of Chychrun, he's much less risky than others. People are already saying amazing things about this kid, that's a risk I take because the payoff is bigger. They weren't saying that about Erik Johnson or Griffin Reinhart, not that I remember anyway.

To be honest, yours if the first time I've heard Matthews in the same breath as McD and Eichel. Three generational talents in two drafts? Call me crazy, but that sounds too good to be true...unless we are devaluing the word "generational" here. And Hanifin isn't in the same pool as Chychrun and Ekblad. Like I said, I'm sure he'll be a great player, but D wins championships. I think the data I provided is sufficient proof of that. Matthews or not, we need a #1D if we ever want to sniff that Cup again.
 

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the new lotto rules if i understand it right, 17th place gets 4th overall if they don't win lotto
 

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The sickest thing is that it really isn't that long ago when many posters kept ranting how this trade will haunt us forever, and were responded by the usual suspects claiming that it's nonsense and that the Bruins are a rock solid franchise that will remain competitive. Now, just a year removed from those discussions, the Bruins have one of the worst teams in the league and the fans are dreaming about future lottery picks. Insult to injury, the same guys who said we won't miss Seguin are now preaching patience and telling us to just wait 3 years for us to be competitive again. I mean which is it? Are we competitive? Are we rebuilding? People kept making fun of Seguin's new club because they couldn't even make the playoffs, yet now they're in a much better place than the Bruins are.

I'm getting the feeling that just like many may enjoy complaining, there's a bunch of guys here who just enjoy complaining about anyone who isn't a blind optimist.

I'd like to see the Seguin and Hamilton haters show up and admit they were wrong. Admit that the management had no clue what they were doing. Admit that as fans you were in the wrong to trust the management without actually thinking for yourself, and in the wrong to claim that the Bruins would remain competitive no matter what.

Seguin trade remains the most disastrous move of the Chiarelli administration, which, I agree, will haunt us until we find another elite forward to replace him.
 

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