ATD2018 - Draft Thread 3

[Habsfan18]

The draft itself isn’t even over yet, but I just wanted to say that this is the most fun I’ve had on HF Boards in my 15 years since joining. Makes me wonder why I took so long to participate.

Thanks guys.

 

[Iceman]

The draft itself isn’t even over yet, but I just wanted to say that this is the most fun I’ve had on HF Boards in my 15 years since joining. Makes me wonder why I took so long to participate.

Thanks guys.

Glad you're here.

 

[Sturminator]

The draft itself isn’t even over yet, but I just wanted to say that this is the most fun I’ve had on HF Boards in my 15 years since joining. Makes me wonder why I took so long to participate.

Thanks guys.

You are good at it. You should come back.

 

[overpass]

Thanks for doing that! It seems off though. If you calculate Nevin's ES VsX7 manually, he's over 60. In that table he's only at 47.8.

What did you do differently?

HO set the benchmark at 70.

 

[Habsfan18]

You are good at it. You should come back.

I appreciate that a lot! I had a specific gameplan in mind for my lineup and I think I accomplished what I was wanting to do. I’m pretty satisfied with my roster considering it was my first try.

 

[jarek]

HO set the benchmark at 70.

I don't know what that means.

 

[BenchBrawl]

The ATD is an extremely fun game/project.Seems custom made for the young boy I used to be.

I do find it more and more time-consuming as the years pass (with more experience comes higher probability that you will go deep in the playoffs, and more responsability for research), and I'll probably be watching the next one or two from the stands after 8 years straight.This is why the community needs new blood all the time.You can burn out from it.

 

[Pominville Knows]

The Pominville Estacades select Ron Ellis, RW.

 

[jarek]

The Pominville Estacades select Ron Ellis, RW.

For a very long time, I thought I was going to complete my first line with him. Ultimately when it came to it, I chose Nevin instead, obviously.

Ellis is a really nice ES specialist here.

 

[overpass]

I think Ellis has been the best two-way RW available for a while.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I thought Ellis was long gone.Had no place for him either way.

 

[jarek]

I think Ellis has been the best two-way RW available for a while.

Probably. His ES VsX7 is around 60. Pretty nice given his excellent all around game. Brings speed and physicality too.

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

I don't know what that means.

He normalized the scores to 70.

 

[jarek]

He normalized the scores to 70.

What does that mean from a math perspective?

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

What does that mean from a math perspective?

(67.8/100)*70

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

Finished Syd Howe's breakdown of his 1935-36 season. He pretty much spent 50/50 at C/LW that year.

 

[Sturminator]

What does that mean from a math perspective?

I don't know what he means either, jarek, though it is possible I'm just getting senile.

 

[BenchBrawl]

That means that a player who has 7 scores of 100 should get 70 I think.

 

[Sprague Cleghorn]

Or im guessing the average elite player scores around 70 adjusted ESP points per year and that instead of using 100 as a benchmark, HO found 70 to be more appropriate

 

[BenchBrawl]

nevermind, missread.

 

[BenchBrawl]

BTW, I like those normalizations.I wanted the same for playoff VsX, to ''normalize'' it to 24 or 25 or something like that, because those cold numbers are more familiar to us.

So a guy whose 7 best years all ended up as the 2nd best scorer, 2nd best even-strenght scorer and 2nd best playoff scorer, in years where the benchmark rule applied is the normal one (2nd best scorer), would have final VsX7, ESVsX7 and PoffVsX7 scores of 70, 100 and 25 respectively, which looks like normal numbers to us.If we did PPVsX7, we would normalize it to 30 I guess if we wanted to be consistent (but that sounds low).

Same for goals, normalize it to 50 goals.

 

[rmartin65]

Who can take a list?

 

[VanIslander]

9 of 24 teams have completed their 4th lines.

Algerie
Marty Pavelich - Steve Kasper - Don Marcotte

Winnipeg
Brian Sutter - Brent Sutter - Pat Verbeek

Kingsman
Vic Hadfield - Don McKenney - Jerry Toppazzini

Montreal
John Madden - Bobby Holik - Punch Broadbent

Port Stanley
Patrick Marleau - Butch Goring - Bill Guerin

New Jersey
Boris Mayorov - Joe Nieuwendyk - Eddie Oatman

Vancouver
Mats Naslund - Pit Lepine - Reggie Leach

Kunlun
Rick Nash - Bob Bourne - Jean Pronovost

Portage Lakes
Dany Heatley - Joe Primeau - Tim Kerr
​

Some look like 4th lines.
Some look like 2nd lines.​

​

 

[BenchBrawl]

I'll take Igor Liba, LW.

Sorry for the wait, was debating between 3 players, then the list just grew instead of reducing.

"One of the most multifaceted players of the 80s, Igor Liba was an excellent skater and very good when it came to defensive play. When it was needed, he wasn't afraid to rough it up, but he was simultaneously very skilled in the technical aspects of the game as well. "

"When Igor Liba was at his peak, many considered him the most multifaceted Czechoslovak player of the 80s. He had vision, anticipation, excellent passing and great defense."

"Igor was a very hard worker, a player that played all over the ice, he skated a ton over the course of a game. Off the ice, a team guy, always willing to help."
- Darius Rusnak -

"I've backchecked, technical game also fit me. But when the need to play rough came, I had no problems."
- Igor Liba -

 

[jarek]

I'll take Igor Liba, LW.

Sorry for the wait, was debating between 3 players, then the list just grew instead of reducing.

I thought about taking him instead of Hadfield but I just couldn't get a good read on his overall game. I don't think he's very good offensively though. Decent peak but it drops off so fast.