Artemi Panarin vs Auston Matthews

[Plural]

Right now, I think Panarin has the edge. I expect Matthews to be better soon enough.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Those are 2 centres

Tootaally

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Panarin is putting up more points playing with worse players. Matthews plays in one of the most offensively stacked teams

Its pretty clearly Panarin.

I mean Panarin has a 16.0 EVS OIS% compared to Matthews who has a 13.9 EVS OIS%, not to mention Panarin play a whole extra minute per game on the PP.
Both of those factors would have a large influence on raw point totals.

 

[Didalee Hed]

I mean Panarin has a 16.0 EVS OIS% compared to Matthews who has a 13.9 EVS OIS%, not to mention Panarin play a whole extra minute per game on the PP.
Both of those factors would have a large influence on raw point totals.

You wanna know another factor?

Panarin’s “betterness” stat is 100%.

The Rangers not having to stoop to a total gutless and gross complete purposeful tank season to get the better player is a bonus.

 

[All Mod Cons]

You wanna know another factor?

Panarin’s “betterness” stat is 100%.

The Rangers not having to stoop to a total gutless and gross complete purposeful tank season to get the better player is a bonus.

Hahaha

 

[tstracuzza]

I mean Panarin has a 16.0 EVS OIS% compared to Matthews who has a 13.9 EVS OIS%, not to mention Panarin play a whole extra minute per game on the PP.
Both of those factors would have a large influence on raw point totals.

Yeah panarin is the reason for the 16% and he draws more penalties.... he’s better

 

[Didalee Hed]

Hahaha

Hahaha

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

I mean Panarin has a 16.0 EVS OIS% compared to Matthews who has a 13.9 EVS OIS%, not to mention Panarin play a whole extra minute per game on the PP.
Both of those factors would have a large influence on raw point totals.

Auston Matthews is generational for every excuse he gets when he loses a poll.

 

[haveandare]

Offensively, it's pretty much a wash. Panarin is better 5on5, Matthews is better on the PP.

All around, imo, Panarin is better. He has a very active defensive game - he jumps a lot of lanes, causes takeaways, backchecks like crazy, generally hustles all over the ice.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Close but Panarin right now, Matthews probably overtakes in the next year or two.

 

[Rhaegar Targaryen]

Panarin is more creative and dynamic

 

[Love]

Matthews is better but people can’t evaluate him correctly because he plays for the Leafs. I’m saying this as a Canucks fan who doesn’t like the Leafs. If Matthews played for the Rangers and Panarin for the Leafs this would be a blowout win for Matthews.

 

[Love]

Hahaha

Hahaha

Hahaha

 

[34]

Matthews is better but people can’t evaluate him correctly because he plays for the Leafs. I’m saying this as a Canucks fan who doesn’t like the Leafs. If Matthews played for the Rangers and Panarin for the Leafs this would be a blowout win for Matthews.

Well said.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Auston Matthews is generational for every excuse he gets when he loses a poll.

I didn't realize that posting factual evidence to support that the gap between the players isn't nearly as big as what the raw point totals may suggest when context is applied was an excuse?
But continue to interpret my comments in any which way you please.

 

[BAM]

I don't get why Oiler fans talk shit about the Leafs, they're going to be Leaf fans in a few years when McDavid signs there.

 

[Neutral Hockey Fan]

Matthews is better but people can’t evaluate him correctly because he plays for the Leafs. I’m saying this as a Canucks fan who doesn’t like the Leafs. If Matthews played for the Rangers and Panarin for the Leafs this would be a blowout win for Matthews.

As an unbiased observer, I can’t stress how accurate this post is.

it’s weird to see posters from other fan bases constantly bashing the leafs, even with knowledgeable leaf fans owning them with facts that can’t be debated. I can see how irritated posters get when I believe it is Dekes for Days comes in to a thread and drops indisputable facts and stats. The “haters” typically flee in embarrassment.

Being neutral, I find it humorous that the leafs being an elite of the elite team is so upsetting to so many

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

As an unbiased observer, I can’t stress how accurate this post is.

it’s weird to see posters from other fan bases constantly bashing the leafs, even with knowledgeable leaf fans owning them with facts that can’t be debated. I can see how irritated posters get when I believe it is Dekes for Days comes in to a thread and drops indisputable facts and stats. The “haters” typically flee in embarrassment.

Being neutral, I find it humorous that the leafs being an elite of the elite team is so upsetting to so many

Dekes For Days cherry picks one beloved stat, tells people they’re wrong because they aren’t using his precious stat.

He doesn’t own f*** all.

 

[Merrrlin]

Hmmm...this is tough.

I think I take Panarin as the better player right now, but Auston will be better very soon.

Panarin is just ridiculous. I will never forgive Lou for blowing it and not getting him inked and in orange and blue.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

What a time to be alive!
I can’t wait to see who wins the coveted Points per 60 Minutes at Even Strength Trophy this year!

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

What a time to be alive!
I can’t wait to see who wins the coveted Points per 60 Minutes at Even Strength Trophy this year!

You mean the Auston Matthews trophy?

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

Better at hockey? Panarin. Could change in the future.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

You mean the Auston Matthews trophy?

I prefer to call it the Connor Sheary trophy as I believe he either won it or was close one year.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Panarin is better right now, he seems to be at his absolute peak as a player and on pace for 116 points. Matthews is only 22 though, we've definitely not seen his best yet.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

As an unbiased observer, I can’t stress how accurate this post is.

it’s weird to see posters from other fan bases constantly bashing the leafs, even with knowledgeable leaf fans owning them with facts that can’t be debated. I can see how irritated posters get when I believe it is Dekes for Days comes in to a thread and drops indisputable facts and stats. The “haters” typically flee in embarrassment.

Being neutral, I find it humorous that the leafs being an elite of the elite team is so upsetting to so many

I’m just a tad bit skeptical of this...

As a neutral observer, it’s funny to see that only leaf fans and a select few like myself used to laugh at those that said Buffalo’s rebuild was years ahead of the leafs just a couple years ago.

That didn’t age well

Only Dubas can sign a top 4 dman, on the top team in The league for the last 15+ games to an amazing contract and be criticized for it.

I’m no leaf fan, but with this type of signing, Dubas has set himself up for a big signing (Pietrangelo maybe), and we have all seen Dubas is capable of landing the big free agent fish, unlike previous leaf management

He and Keefe are looking like 1a and 1B at this point. It’s a close race this year for sure!

I'm enjoying the ride as a mere fan of hockey!

Based on the threads in the summer, fans of other teams were salivating at signing these guys to $4 million+ offer sheets. How Kyle Dubas managed to get these guys signed for like 3.2 each is nothing short of incredible.

You have 2 top 6 forwards with speed to burn and grit and tenacity in spades that put up almost low end first line production. On their own, each one world return a very very good defenceman.

As someone with absolutely no love for Toronto, Dubas got the team out of the hell Lou left him with and he has somehow improved the team while doing it. Hats off to him

A great GM and a great person. Shanahan showing once again his plan with the leafs management is rock solid. Great vision. Congrats to all leaf fans out there. As a hockey fan, the future is bright for you guys