Proposal: Arizona - Toronto
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LuckyBoeser
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I wouldn't accept that from Toronto's perspective. There are some good pieces heading to the Leafs in this proposal but not enough value to pry Matthews away from Toronto.
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Arizona could add 100 1st round picks but Matthews isn't leaving. Arizona doesn't have the assets to trade for him. The only way to get players like Matthews is through the draft once every decade or so.
FerrisRox
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That's not enough.
I think Chychrun and Keller are good pieces, but to get Matthews, they would need to include one more roster player - and a valuable piece - and a package of picks.
I don't think your offer is even close to moving the needle.
"in b4 he's signing there in free agency in 2024"
it would cost a lot more assets that just chychrun, keller and a 1st round pick.
it would cost a lot more assets that just chychrun, keller and a 1st round pick.
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Mitch nylander
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Good pieces, but really not a deal the leafs should be doing. Leafs aren't looking to trade matthews no matter what and you would not want to know what it would take. It would be much more then you'd like to give up.
Think a package along of the lines of this would be what the leafs would want.
Top 6 forward, top 4 d, top prospects, good physical grinder, 1st....
Keller, Chychrun, Soderstrom, Hayton, Crouse, 1st, Jenik,
Obviously that is deal that the coyotes should go nowhere near.
No team trades a 22 yr old top center, who has the most even strength goals in the league and is on pace for 90+ points.
Think a package along of the lines of this would be what the leafs would want.
Top 6 forward, top 4 d, top prospects, good physical grinder, 1st....
Keller, Chychrun, Soderstrom, Hayton, Crouse, 1st, Jenik,
Obviously that is deal that the coyotes should go nowhere near.
No team trades a 22 yr old top center, who has the most even strength goals in the league and is on pace for 90+ points.
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Keller is a 40 point analytically disastrous winger. How exactly would he be attractive to a gm like dubas or an organization like the leafs?
You also put together a package of 10 dimes. That isn't enough to get Matthews. You need 3-4 premium assets. Like Lafreniere type prospects. Not 7 meh pieces.
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That isn't enough for Matthews.
For Marner I would be curious where both sides would be on this trade though.
For Marner I would be curious where both sides would be on this trade though.
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Keller would be the last player in the world Dubas would acquire. So it wouldn't be close either.
CatchyTune
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Chychyrun is a stud but that offer isnt even close value wise.
Hate to kill you dreams but Arizona doesnt have the assets in their organization to bring Matthews home.
You'd love Matthews to come home, and i'd love Mcdavid to come home. Neither are very realistic.
Hate to kill you dreams but Arizona doesnt have the assets in their organization to bring Matthews home.
You'd love Matthews to come home, and i'd love Mcdavid to come home. Neither are very realistic.
hamzarocks
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Keller has been a disaster since his rookie season. I loved him as a player in 2018 and thought he would be pretty much where marner is right now. He has yet to grow his game and doesnt bring enough offense nor consistent offense generation to be considered a elite piece.
Nylander had a shit year last year at 6.96 and paced for 41 points. His perceived value league wide was next to nothing around here. Keller had almost as bad a year this season with him pacing for 50ish points and being paid 7.14 million. He is not a valuable piece in a deal for a marner/matthews.
Chychrun is a great player and would be the leafs 2nd or 3rd best defenseman next year (depending on if his offensive game continue to grow or if muzzin takes a step back) but he is a lefty and not good enough to be the main piece in a deal where leafs are trading one of their two franchise players.
Nylander had a shit year last year at 6.96 and paced for 41 points. His perceived value league wide was next to nothing around here. Keller had almost as bad a year this season with him pacing for 50ish points and being paid 7.14 million. He is not a valuable piece in a deal for a marner/matthews.
Chychrun is a great player and would be the leafs 2nd or 3rd best defenseman next year (depending on if his offensive game continue to grow or if muzzin takes a step back) but he is a lefty and not good enough to be the main piece in a deal where leafs are trading one of their two franchise players.
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I just put their 3 best prospects (hayton (5th overall pick), Soderstrom (11th overall pick), Jenik (56pts in 27 games in the o), Keller who put up 65 just two years ago and was on pace for 51 and is only 21, chychrun who is a young top 4 d, crouse who would be a nice different element and a first round pick.
But like you said I totally agree. Matthews should not be traded and I wouldn't even trade him for the package listed I was just setting an example.
Just like how Montreal landed Tavares and Duchene.
hamzarocks
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If he walks as a UFA so be it. But Arizona dont have the combination of assets to acquire him. Not many team do
CatchyTune
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Dont worry. Montreal doesnt need to spend big on a franchise C. They already drafted the next big thing in Jesperi Kotkaniemi.
Also, not sure if you're aware, Montreal CAN land big fishes in free agency. They signed Karl Alzner not too far back.
Also why would Montreal allocate big money to stud free agents when they can draft and develop stars on their own, like Alex Galchenyuk, Michael McCarron, Nikita Scherbak, Jarred Tinordi, and Nathan Beauliou.
They also flexed their European connection by extending Alex Radulov long term, and also waved around their $$ and showed they take care of homegrown talent by handing Carey Price $10.5 a year until he is 40.
So even if a player like Matthews, Tavares, or Duchene wanted to go there, I think they would just stay the course.
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Once every decade? Let me see Mackinnon, McDavid, Draisaitl all drafted in the same decade and all are better. Eichel, petterson are not far off and Lafreniere also has the potential to be as good as him and Dalhin could also end up being just as valuable. 100 1st?? Lol trade is awful for toronto but your comment is a joke.
6 first round picks AND a top prospect? Yeah, a deal the Coyotes would go nowhere near.
(I agree Matthews is not going to be traded regardless)
LeProspector
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Or wait for him to be a UFA in 4 years.
God, Dubas is brain dead. How do you pay that much and give him the chance to leave town at the first possible opportunity?
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those guys arent all on the same team are they?
lafreniere isnt a C. Dahlin isn't a C. saying a team could wait 10 years to draft a franchise C is completely fine.
Halla
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1) it isnt the first possible opportunity
2) the number of 1st line C that have left a team via UFA in their prime is about 1 name long. Arizona might not even have a team in 4 1/2 years
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