I would think so as long as one of the conditions isn’t a worse pick if he re-signs with the blues after the expansion draft.
Just like any other top 6 winger out there the ask would start with a first round pick and see where it goes from there.
Speculation: Are The Blues Sellers?
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I would think so as long as one of the conditions isn’t a worse pick if he re-signs with the blues after the expansion draft.
Just like any other top 6 winger out there the ask would start with a first round pick and see where it goes from there.
SpeakingOfTheDevils
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The last time there were whispers about the Blues potentially selling, they went ahead and won the Stanley Cup.
I don't think that happens again, but I also don't think they will be sounding the alarms and moving consequential pieces. They have a good group.
I don't think that happens again, but I also don't think they will be sounding the alarms and moving consequential pieces. They have a good group.
I agree with this. The blues have been decimated with injuries this year and have had players in their lineup that came from the echl. If there is a chance they can become healthy before the season would end then I don’t think they would actually be sellers.
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Considering Colorado is a division rival in the current and old format, I think, even as a rental, it’d take an overpayment. Or at least a conditional pick on top what a higher end rental would get if he re-signs
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Honestly I'd be happy with just Dunn tbh. I like Perron but making him work under the cap would require us trading Tatar I think and im not sure how much that upgrade is worth.
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Teams aren't allowed to have conditional picks related to whether or not a team resigns a player. Zuccarello's camp made a huge fuss about Dallas not wanting to resign him to avoid paying NYR a conditional 1st, even though he did really well for them in the playoffs.
You are talking a huge overpayment. Blues are going to resign him. Ypu don't trade player like schwartz
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The Blues are in serious danger of not making the playoffs. We've already played most of our games against the weaker teams in our division and now we'll be getting a steady diet of Colorado, Vegas, and Minnesota. I think these are the guys we'd be most likely to move:
Mike Hoffman - We aren't going to be able to re-sign Hoffman after this season so I'd like them to sell him to the highest bidder. Teams that need help on the PP should be interested. Don't expect a lot out him at 5v5 ideally he should be on your third line.
Vince Dunn - If the Blues protect Parayko, Faulk, and Krug like I think they probably will Seattle will most likely take Dunn (I personally hope we protect Dunn and expose Krug). Some Blues fans don't like him because he is prone to the occasional defensive mistake, but the positives easily outweigh the negatives in my opinion. He can be a good second pairing defenseman with a steady partner or carry your third pairing.
Zach Sanford - Sanford is an RFA after this year and then the next season will become a free agent. Maybe we'll keep him and re-sign him but he could also be valuable to a contender with his low cap hit this year and next year as an RFA. His skill is third line level, but when he's engaged he can be a good guy to have as the third forward on a top 6 line (the Blues used him a lot on the first line to complement ROR and Perron).
I think we'll re-sign Schwartz but you never know.
Mike Hoffman - We aren't going to be able to re-sign Hoffman after this season so I'd like them to sell him to the highest bidder. Teams that need help on the PP should be interested. Don't expect a lot out him at 5v5 ideally he should be on your third line.
Vince Dunn - If the Blues protect Parayko, Faulk, and Krug like I think they probably will Seattle will most likely take Dunn (I personally hope we protect Dunn and expose Krug). Some Blues fans don't like him because he is prone to the occasional defensive mistake, but the positives easily outweigh the negatives in my opinion. He can be a good second pairing defenseman with a steady partner or carry your third pairing.
Zach Sanford - Sanford is an RFA after this year and then the next season will become a free agent. Maybe we'll keep him and re-sign him but he could also be valuable to a contender with his low cap hit this year and next year as an RFA. His skill is third line level, but when he's engaged he can be a good guy to have as the third forward on a top 6 line (the Blues used him a lot on the first line to complement ROR and Perron).
I think we'll re-sign Schwartz but you never know.
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Richard88
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It was a thing until Zuccarello moaned about it and the league changed the rule.
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He's easy skating. Not sure he's even skating every day right now. Nowhere near being ready to come back. With that disc, I'd really be surprised to see him back this season and I'd be utterly shocked to see him back at anything close to 100% this season if he does come back.
Minimum 1st-round pick and a good prospect. Possibly more. If he hits the market, half the league will be after him and those who are on his no-trade list will be asking him to waive it to go there. If you have Taylor Hall rated higher, he'd be the 2nd-highest rated impending UFA that would likely be available. If you have Hall rated lower, Schwartz would be #1.
Chances I think he gets moved before the trade deadline: pretty small, but not zero.
Perron is not getting traded. He would be a first ++
Point per game player 12 goals 23 assists 35 games.
Blues are keeping perron.
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Actually; despite what the advanced stats say, his defensive game hasn't been nearly as bad as people thought it was going to be. The bigger issue is the lack of physical play. He's allergic anything involved with the forecheck(which is a death sentence on a Berube coached team), but he's made some really nice plays in the defensive zone and even saved a game or two early in the season.
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Don't see the Blues moving any of the players with team control beyond this season, guys like Sanford/Blais/Dunn will be exposed for the expansion draft, then I'd wager trades will be made after that.
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Nah the Blues have a Cup contending roster if they can get healthy and actually get some cohesion from their lines. The injuries this year have been insane and there's been constant line juggling trying to find which players work well together.
If they can stay in a playoff spot and go on a good run to end the season, they have a good chance of winning. So I don't think they'll be sellers. Pretty sure Schwartz is a high priority to get re-signed.
If they can stay in a playoff spot and go on a good run to end the season, they have a good chance of winning. So I don't think they'll be sellers. Pretty sure Schwartz is a high priority to get re-signed.
I wonder if we should Trade him and then resign him. Pick up a couple of decent assets to build up the prospect pool.
I don’t see a playoff team this year without CP. he has been a huge loss.
dunn is probably worth a 2nd. If someone offered a first he would be gone already.
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Rights to Jordan Harris (PPG D in NCAA going back for Sr Year), Kulak (to make the cap work) and a 2nd for Dunn
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