All-Time Draft #11 Line-Up Assassination Thread

God Bless Canada

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Now that we have a finished team, and now that most teams are selecting their spare parts, it's time for an ATD staple: the line-up assassination thread. Please post your team's rosters, coaches, captains and alternates, and special team players in this thread. Have fun and let's keep it respectful.

I will try my best to review all teams, but I won't review teams until they are finished.
 

Hedberg

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Now that my team's finished, I present the ATD 11 Victoria Salmon Kings:

Coach: Lester Patrick
Captain: King Clancy
Assistant Captain: Igor Larionov
Assistant Captain: Max Bentley
Assistant Captain: Brent Sutter

Martin Broduer - Paddy Moran

King Clancy - Jack Stewart
Cy Wentworth - Paul Reinhart
Terry Harper - Brian Rafalski
Art Duncan

Brendan Shanahan - Max Bentley - Didier Pitre
Gary Roberts - Igor Larionov - Rod Gilbert
Pete Mahovlich - Cooney Weiland - Pat Verbeek
Marcel Bonin - Brent Sutter - Murray Balfour
Dubbie Bowie - Barney Stanley

PP1
King Clancy - Paul Reinhart
Brendan Shanahan - Max Bentley - Didier Pitre

PP2
Igor Larionov - Brian Rafalski
Gary Roberts - Cooney Weiland - Rod Gilbert

PK1
Jack Stewart - Cy Wentworth
Brent Sutter - Marcel Bonin

PK2
King Clancy - Terry Haper
Murray Balfour - Igor Larionov
 
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God Bless Canada

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Victoria Salmon Kings review...

*I like the blend on this team. They are particularly deep down the middle. And they have wingers capable of opening up room for those skilled centres. I don't know if they have that stand-out aspect; I don't know if they have anything on this team that will be rated as "the best in the draft." But there's a lot to like, and nothing really to dislike. (They avoided the big mistake that sunk Victoria in the last ATD).
*The first line is dangerous. Normally I'd rather have Rod Gilbert over Cannonball Pitre for my first line RW. But I'll make an exception in this case. Pitre gives that top line a fast-skating, hard-shooting winger who can keep up with Magic Max Bentley, and I like what Pitre brings as a finisher more than what Gilbert brings as a finisher.
*Must be nice having Brendan Shanahan and Gary Roberts - two guys with an excellent blend of goal-scoring ability and toughness - on your team. Nobody will take liberties with Bentley, Larionov or Gilbert as long as Shanahan or Roberts is on the ice.
*I don't know if this team has a line that's a natural shut-down line, or a line that can log the minutes against the opposition's top players. I see the third line, and I see a line that might be a little better suited to a third offensive line, with some good defensive abilities, but they aren't a true shutdown line. Cooney Weiland doesn't get enough credit around here. Smart two-way players with an Art Ross Trophy and a second-team all-star selection should be picked earlier than he is. But do they fit as a line that can log big minutes against the opposition? I'm not convinced.
*That fourth line will bring a strong forechecking presence, if nothing else. raleh and I had the Killer B's line (Balon-some "B" guy-Balfour) in MLD 8. I don't know if that fourth line is quite deserving of the Killer B's label, but it won't be easy to play against.
*Love the first pairing on the defence. Clancy's an awesome player, and he's lined up with Black Jack Stewart, one of the meanest, toughest, and best defensive defencemen of all-time. It's a nice luxury to have when you can play your top pairing together in all situations. (Incidentally, I'd have Stewart out there on the PP. I think he's good enough offensively for that role, even though his numbers don't show it).
*We're big Harper fans, and we were prepared to pick him ahead of O'Reilly. Hard to believe how far Harper fell - he was an eighth round pick last draft. Rock-solid defenceman who can log No. 3 or 4 minutes.
*I do understand why you have Harper on the third pairing. Reinhart-Rafalski isn't exactly an ideal pairing. If I have one concern, it's that they're a little too similar. While they bring a lot to the table, I like having that proverbial change-up in each of my defence pairings.
*You can't go wrong with Martin Brodeur as your goaltender. He's a workhorse, and his level of consistency is probably unmatched in NHL history. His back-up becomes the Maytag Repairman of the draft. The most important thing for Moran is to be a positive influence in the locker room, and to be able to thrive despite a light workload (15 or so starts playing behind Brodeur).
*Lester Patrick's an awesome coach. One of the very best in the draft. I think he's in the top-tier for coaching options. He thinks the game at another level. And he knows how to handle his players. He could be a difference maker in a tight seven-game series against a team with a lesser coach.
 
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Coach: Pat Burns
Captain: Boris Mikhailov
Alternate Captains: Larry Robinson, Dale Hawerchuk, Brenden Morrow


#17 Valeri Kharlamov-#16 Vladimir Petrov-#13 Boris Mikhailov
#26 Patrik Elias-#10 Dale Hawerchuk-#12 Gordie Drillon
#11 Brenden Morrow-#29 Joel Otto-#21 Duane Sutter
#23 Eddie Shack-#18 Chris Drury-#25 Mike Keane
#14 Kent Nilsson, #32 Milan Hejduk

#19 Larry Robinson-#2 Babe Pratt
#5 Guy Lapointe-#3 Jean-Guy Talbot
#7 Stefan Persson-#6 Ken Morrow
#25 Dave Langevin

#1 George Hainsworth
#35 Mike Richter


Powerplay
Kharlamov-Hawerchuk-Drillon
Robinson-Lapointe

Elias-Petrov-Mikhailov
Pratt-Persson


Penalty Kill
Otto-Mikhailov
Robinson-Lapointe

Petrov-Morrow
Morrow-Talbot​
 
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VanIslander

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Colorado Avalanche

Head Coach: Jacques Demers
Ass. Coach: Roger Neilson

Luc Robitaille-Gilbert Perreault-Yvan Cournoyer
Michel Goulet-Mats Sundin(A)-Bobby Bauer
Herbie Lewis-Vinny Damphousse-Owen Nolan(A)
Bobby Holik-Red Sullivan-John MacLean
Wilf Paiement

Pierre Pilote(C)-Georges Boucher
Leo Boivin-Randy Carlyle
Rob Ramage-Carol Vadnais
Kevin Hatcher

Patrick Roy
Lorne Chabot​

1st powerplay: Luc Robitaille-Gil Perreault-Yvan Cournoyer-Pierre Pilote-Butch Boucher
2nd powerplay: Michel Goulet-Mats Sundin-Owen Nolan-Carol Vadnais-Randy Carlyle

1st penalty kill: Bobby Holik-Herbie Lewis-Pierre Pilote-Leo Boivin
2nd penalty kill: Vinny Damphousse-John MacLean-Randy Carlyle-Rob Ramage
 
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VanIslander

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Yvan Cournoyer is not on your powerplay?
Nolan has 151 powerplay goals, is very good in front of the net, where a guy needs to be.

Shall Bauer sit and Yvan be put there? Or perhaps they can share ice time. It's a good problem to have, no? three right wingers excellent on the powerplay.
 

VanIslander

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Alright then. Changed:

1st powerplay: Luc Robitaille-Gil Perreault-Yvan Cournoyer-Pierre Pilote-Butch Boucher
2nd powerplay: Michel Goulet-Mats Sundin-Owen Nolan-Carol Vadnais-Randy Carlyle
 

arrbez

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Well, here's my Inglewood Jacks (regular season version):

Harry Sinden

Cy Denneny - Joe Malone - Hooley Smith
Dany Heatley - Denis Savard - Sergei Makarov
Nick Metz - Ken Mosdell - Joe Klukay
Al Secord - Bernie Nicholls - Bill Guerin
Mel Bridgman - Shane Doan

Slava Fetisov - Eric Desjardins
Chris Chelios - Jimmy Watson
Leo Reise jr - Glen Harmon
Pat Egan

Harry Lumley
Chuck Rayner



PP1: Denneny - Savard - Makarov - Fetisov - Desjardins
PP2: Heatley - Smith - Malone - Chelios - Reise

PK1: Metz - Klukay - Chelios - Watson
PK2: Smith - Mosdell - Fetisov - Harmon
 
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arrbez

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Boston Braves



Coach: Pat Burns
Captain: Boris Mikhailov
Alternate Captains: Larry Robinson, Dale Hawerchuk, Brenden Morrow


#17 Valeri Kharlamov-#16 Vladimir Petrov-#13 Boris Mikhailov
#26 Patrik Elias-#10 Dale Hawerchuk-#12 Gordie Drillon
#11 Brenden Morrow-#29 Joel Otto-#21 Duane Sutter
#23 Eddie Shack-#18 Chris Drury-#25 Mike Keane
#14 Kent Nilsson, #32 Milan Hejduk

#19 Larry Robinson-#2 Babe Pratt
#5 Guy Lapointe-#3 Jean-Guy Talbot
#7 Stefan Persson-#6 Ken Morrow
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#1 George Hainsworth
#35 Mike Richter


Powerplay
Kharlamov-Hawerchuk-Drillon
Robinson-Lapointe

Elias-Petrov-Mikhailov
Pratt-Persson


Penalty Kill
Otto-Mikhailov
Robinson-Lapointe

Petrov-Morrow
Morrow-Talbot​

-I like your defense from top to bottom. No weak links, although I might look at putting someone else with Robinson. If he's playing with a pure rushing defenseman like Babe Pratt, it would appear that he'd have to play it conservative. I think that's under-utilizing his skills.
-Your top two lines should be very good offensively, but outside of Mikhailov (to a degree), there isn't much sandpaper there. I'm not sure any of your bottom-6 guys are good enough offensively to step in there (maybe Morrow), and your subs in Nilsson and Hejduk certainly won't bring any more grit (although both are certainly good enough to play on a scoring line).
-No defined shut-down line, but a very nice mix of grit and defensive play in your bottom 6. Neither line will be fun to play against.
-Hainsworth is a solid #1, and in Richter you have a guy who can absolutely steal a series when he's on.
 

Jungosi

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Jungosi proudly presents the 2009 Wacken Warriors


Coach : Cecil Hart

Sid Smith - Joe Sakic - Andy Bathgate
Rick Martin - Reg Noble - Babe Dye
Hec Kilrea - Walt Tkaczuk - Eric Nesterenko
Ryan Walter - Metro Prystai - Gary Dornhoefer
Alexander Almetov

Bill Quackenbush - Ken Reardon
Moose Johnson - Jim Schoenfeld
Frantisek Tikal - Mark Tinordi
Jimmy Roberts , Battleship Leduc

Jacques Plante
Gerry McNeil

Powerplay :

Sid Smith - Joe Sakic - Andy Bathgate
Bill Quackenbush - Jim Schoenfeld

Rick Martin - Reg Noble - Cecil Dye
Ken Reardon - Moose Johnson

Penalty Kill :

Kilrea - Tkaczuk
Quackenbush - Reardon

Walter - Prystai
Johnson - Schoenfeld

Dornhoefer will see a lot of PK time too. Smith and Sakic will also take their share.
 
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DoMakc

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Kilkenny Bustards

GM: DoMakc, John Flyers Fan
Coach: Hitchcock
Captain: Trottier
Alternate Captains: Francis, Lowe, Graham



72 John Tonelli - 19 Bryan Trottier - 16 Brett Hull
40 Henrik Zetterberg - 10 Ron Francis - 12 Bryan Hextall Sr.
8 Dick Duff - 17 Rod Brind'Amour - 33 Dirk Graham
22 John Ferguson - 25 Keith Primeau - 11 Kevin Dineen
21 Ivan Hlinka, HÃ¥kan Loob

27 Scott Niedermayer - 4 Kevin Lowe
3 Harry Howell - 55 Larry Murphy
23 Petr Svoboda - 28 Reed Larson
44 Kimmo Timonen

1 Glenn Hall
? Normie Smith

PP1: Hull-Trottier-Tonelli
Larson-Murphy

PP2: Zetterberg-Brind'amour-Hextall
Niedermayer-Francis

PK1: Brind'amour - Graham
Howell-Lowe

PK2: Primeau - Duff
Niedermayer-Svoboda

PK3: Trottier - Zetterberg
Lowe - Murphy
 
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Kyle McMahon

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Hampton Roads Admirals

Coach: Jack Adams
Captain: Doug Gilmour
Assistants: Lester Patrick, Syd Howe

Syd Howe -- Newsy Lalonde -- Cam Neely
Ilya Kovalchuk -- Doug Gilmour -- Alf Smith
Murray Murdoch -- Pit Lepine -- Bob Nystrom
Bernie Morris -- Ken Linseman -- Johnny Peirson
Harry Trihey, Billy Boucher

Lionel Hitchman -- Eddie Shore
Ching Johnson -- Lester Patrick
Harry Mummery -- Weldy Young
Joe Watson

Roy Worters
John Ross Roach


PP#1: Kovalchuk -- Lalonde -- Neely
Patrick -- Shore

PP#2: Howe -- Gilmour -- Smith
Mummery -- Young

PK#1: Murdoch -- Lepine
Hitchman -- Johnson

PK#2: Howe -- Gilmour
Mummery -- Shore​

I don't have a great deal of knowledge of the penalty killing attributes of some of my players, so any advice for the PK is surely welcome.
 
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for PK, i'd probably use the d-men as they are paired, and

lepine - murdoch

gilmour - howe

linseman - peirson
 

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Hampton Roads Admirals

Coach: Jack Adams
Captain: Doug Gilmour
Assistants: Lester Patrick, Syd Howe

Syd Howe -- Newsy Lalonde -- Cam Neely
Ilya Kovalchuk -- Doug Gilmour -- Bob Nystrom
Murray Murdoch -- Pit Lepine -- Alf Smith
Bernie Morris -- Ken Linseman -- Johnny Peirson
Harry Trihey

Lionel Hitchman -- Eddie Shore
Ching Johnson -- Lester Patrick
Harry Mummery -- Weldy Young
Joe Watson

Roy Worters
John Ross Roach


PP#1: Kovalchuk -- Lalonde -- Neely
Patrick -- Shore

PP#2: Howe -- Gilmour -- Smith
Mummery -- Young

PK#1: Murdoch -- Lepine
Hitchman -- Johnson

PK#2: Howe -- Gilmour
Mummery -- Shore​

I don't have a great deal of knowledge of the penalty killing attributes of some of my players, so any advice for the PK is surely welcome.

- I would put Alf Smith on the second line and move down Nystrom on the third.
- Wasn't Morris a RW? I never thought he played on the left side.
 

seventieslord

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OK, our team is finished and all bio'd up, thanks to me having a day off Monday.

If you need any more info on a player in order to comment, just click their name and you have their bio post.

Do your worst, boys:


The Regina Pats

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GM: seventiesvancitylordluongo
Coach: Tommy Gorman

Aurel Joliat - Darryl Sittler (A) - Guy Lafleur
Tommy Phillips - Norm Ullman - Odie Cleghorn
Craig Ramsay - Don Luce - Danny Gare (A)
Harry P. Watson - Jack Adams - Bobby Schmautz

Sprague Cleghorn - Red Horner
Lionel Conacher - Joe Simpson
Jack Marshall - Art Coulter (C)


Clint Benedict
Roberto Luongo

Extras:
C Doug Weight
RW/D Ron Stewart
D/C/LW Goldie Prodger

PP1:
Joliat-Ullman-Lafleur
Cleghorn-Simpson

PP2:
Phillips-Sittler-Cleghorn
Conacher-Horner

PK1:
Ramsay-Luce
Conacher-Coulter

PK2:
Phillips-Ullman
Cleghorn-Marshall
 

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Head Coach: Bob "Badger" Johnson

Captain: Butch Bouchard
Alternates: Johnny Bucyk, Brad Park

W. Cashman-P. Esposito-K. Hodge
J. Bucyk-B. Federko-J. Toppazzini
D. Maloney-R. MacLeish-R. Middleton
J. Wilson-R. Meagher-A. Davidson

B. Park-E. Bouchard
B. Leetch-C. Huddy
M. Grant-D. Barkley
D. Awrey

G. Vezina
A. Rollins


PP1: Bucyk-Esposito-Middleton-Park-Leetch
PP2: MacLeish-Federko-Hodge-Grant-Barkley

PK1: Meagher-Toppazzini-Park-Bouchard
PK2: MacLeish-Middleton-Leetch-Huddy


Questions/Comments:

-This was a lot of fun, and definitely a great experience in terms of learning about the game.

-I regret trading around as much I did early on, especially as it depleted me of mid-draft picks. I couldn't capitalize on some of the fallers, and had to reach for players to fill certain roles.

-Positives: I think I have one of the strongest offenses in the ATD, both in quality and quantity. Esposito is in the perfect environment to succeed, what with Cash, Hodge, The Chief and Don Maloney. He also has the best possible Orr replacement in Brad Park, and another option in Leetch. Defensively, with Toppazzini, Middleton, MacLeish, Middleton, Maloney and Wilson, there will also be enough responsibility to balance out some of the gamblers (cough Federko cough Espo).

-Speaking of Park/Leetch, let me explain why I took both, rather than someone like Pronger: no one in the history of the game comes close to what Orr can bring for 30 minutes. However, having two of the best offensive producers ever from the back-end on the ice for 25-30 minutes apiece is, in my mind, a decent substitute.

-On the defense as a whole, I'm pretty proud of the first three, and a little iffy on the back three. I really wanted Vasko to round out the top four, and tried to both move up to get him and to acquire him after he was drafted. No dice.

-Goal, I'm really happy with. I wasn't so confident with just Vezina; while he played over 300 consecutive games, he never got the opportunity to prove he could handle 70 games a season. That's why I was so overjoyed to get Rollins; he was a guy who could deliver 50-70 starts a year, and steal you games in the process (see: twice top-two in Hart voting). I think this tandem could be good enough to get us to the Finals.

-Special teams is my biggest strength, I think. Can anyone defend Bucyk-Esposito-Middleton-Park-Leetch for two minutes? Similarly, is there a better threat to score shorthanded than my PK units?

-Negatives: A couple of guys are being stretched in terms of role. Toppazzini is a great third liner, but I took him where I did because I needed a guy who could open space for Bucyk and Federko to score goals. Then I realized that Bucyk would have been best utilized in that role on that line, with a real sniper on the right side. Oops. As a result, I think the lack of a top-300 scorer for that line is my biggest hole, both at ES and on the powerplay.

-Another negative is the uneven/unproven nature of Huddy, Grant and Barkley. Simply put, can those guys compete with the top 650 of all-time? There will be times when they will be matched up against second lines- although not on purpose- and it may pose a problem.

-Questions I have: Should Bucyk/Federko/Topp be kept together? I would love to have Bucyk-MacLeish-Middleton together, but my LW is not deep enough for that; Federko would end up between some combination of Wilson, Maloney, Toppazzini and Davidson, and I don't know if any of those work so well. Wilson-Federko-Davidson might, though. Another question, although I guess a couple people have answered it in the Draft Summary: are Park-Bouchard-Leetch-Huddy my optimal pairings? I considered Park-Leetch-Huddy-Bouchard at one point, but that second unit would be listless offensively.

Thanks and I'll begin talking about other lineups shortly!
 
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VanIslander

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There were four "rookie"-run teams and each has been impressive, each a departure from the ATD norm but in minor ways which actually look decent.

There's one per division so all four could be discussed together:

Jim Robson division: Zamboni Mania - Colorado Avalanche
Foster Hewitt division: Reds4Life- Trinec Steelers
Bob Cole division: CanadiensFan - Montreal Canadiens
René Lecavalier division: Mr. Bugg - Kimberley Dynamiters

Anybody up to it?
 

raleh

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OK, our team is finished and all bio'd up, thanks to me having a day off Monday.

If you need any more info on a player in order to comment, just click their name and you have their bio post.

Do your worst, boys:


The Regina Pats

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GM: seventiesvancitylordluongo
Coach: Tommy Gorman

Aurel Joliat - Darryl Sittler (A) - Guy Lafleur
Tommy Phillips - Norm Ullman - Odie Cleghorn
Craig Ramsay - Don Luce - Danny Gare (A)
Harry P. Watson - Jack Adams - Bobby Schmautz

Sprague Cleghorn - Red Horner
Lionel Conacher - Joe Simpson
Jack Marshall - Art Coulter (C)


Clint Benedict
Roberto Luongo

Extras:
C Doug Weight
RW/D Ron Stewart
D/C/LW Goldie Prodger

PP1:
Joliat-Ullman-Lafleur
Cleghorn-Simpson

PP2:
Phillips-Sittler-Cleghorn
Conacher-Horner

PK1:
Ramsay-Luce
Conacher-Coulter

PK2:
Phillips-Ullman
Cleghorn-Marshall

Oh man, another terrible team by seventieslord and VCL. :sarcasm:

I don't have much time and maybe this belongs in the other thread, but Cleghorn-Horner is my favourite defensive pairing in the draft. Probably not the absolute best, but pretty high up there and I would give anything to watch them.
 

Reds4Life

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Here's my team:

Coach: Scotty Bowman
Captain: Bobby Hull
Alternate Captains: Peter Forsberg, Ebbie Goodfellow

Alexander Ovechkin - Peter Forsberg (A) - Vaclav Nedomansky
Bobby Hull (C) - Sidney Crosby - Steve Larmer
Keith Tkachuk - Mike Peca - Jeremy Roenick
Shayne Corson - Kris Draper - Marian Hossa
Vladimir Zabrodsky
Jaroslav Holik

Ebbie Goodfellow (A) - Sergei Gonchar
Ted Green - Art Ross
Craig Ludwig - Sandis Ozolinsh
Brad Maxwell

Bill Durnan
Chris Osgood

PowerPlay Unit 1:
Hull - Forsberg - Nedomansky
Ovechkin - Gonchar

PowerPlay Unit 2:
Hossa - Crosby - Larmer
Goodfellow - Ozolinsh

PK Unit 1:
Hull - Peca
Green - Goodfellow

PK Unit 2:
Forsberg - Draper
Ludwig - Ross

  • I am not happy with my defence, it is most likely the worst in this draft, on the other hand I have excellent goaltender in Bill Durnan and decent backup in Ozzie.
  • I like my forwards, each line can score.
  • I am thrilled that Scotty Bowman, the greatest coach of all time imho, is part of this team. Integral part. He is the leader and the most important person.
  • This team will play defense first style.
  • Roenick is out of place but he has shown decent chemistry with Tkachuk.
 
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Jungosi

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Well, here's my Inglewood Jacks (regular season version):

Harry Sinden

Cy Denneny - Joe Malone - Hooley Smith
Dany Heatley - Denis Savard - Sergei Makarov
Nick Metz - Ken Mosdell - Joe Klukay
Al Secord - Bernie Nicholls - Bill Guerin

Slava Fetisov - Eric Desjardins
Chris Chelios - Jimmy Watson
Leo Reise jr - Glen Harmon
Pat Egan

Harry Lumley
Chuck Rayner



PP1: Denneny - Savard - Makarov - Fetisov - Desjardins
PP2: Heatley - Smith - Malone - Chelios - Reise

PK1: Metz - Klukay - Chelios - Watson
PK2: Smith - Mosdell - Fetisov - Harmon

Just a few random thoughts :

* I like your first line. It provides exactly what a first line should provide : Offense.

* While your second line also provides more offense than most second lines in the draft I am a little concerned with Heatley. The Savard-Makarov combo is absolutely sick and there are very few defensemen that could skate with them. Heatley is more like the opposite but still an effective player. I'm just not sure if he can keep up with them. That could be a detriment for the line

* Having both Chelios and Fetisov on defense in pretty awesome. Both are great allrounders that play with an edge. Their partners compliment them well too. Not sure if Watson is a #4 defenseman but hey it's Chris Chelios beside him.

* Your checking line certainly won't let you down at all. One of the best in the draft.

* I personally prefer a more defensive-minded fourth line but yours gives you a nice amount of toughness and scoring touch. (There aren't too many 150 point fourth-liners out there ;))

* I really liked that you picked Rayner as a back-up for Lumley (or vice versa) Two rather low-tier starters but if one goes down you have an equally-skilled back-up.

* Overall a really good entry. My only concerns are the lack of defense by the forwards aside from the third line and the "Heatley situation".

* By the way : This team features 4 of Jungosi's favourites : Fetisov, Desjardins, Nicholls and Makarov.
 

arrbez

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* While your second line also provides more offense than most second lines in the draft I am a little concerned with Heatley. The Savard-Makarov combo is absolutely sick and there are very few defensemen that could skate with them. Heatley is more like the opposite but still an effective player. I'm just not sure if he can keep up with them. That could be a detriment for the line

I thought about that, but I think Heatley's style actually compliments them very well. He's not as fast as Savard and Makarov...but he's not slow either. He's one of the best players I've seen since Brett Hull at knowing where to be, and getting there at the perfect time to bury his chances. He has a tremendous one-timer, and he can beat a goalie from anywhere with his shot. I think that offensively, he's an ideal compliment for two guys who can not only dangle, but skillfully dish the puck when they draw the defense to them. A Savard-Makarov fast-break is a nightmare for the defending team. And then...hey, who's got the trailer? BOOM. Goal. Arrbez win's the universe. The crowd goes wild!!!1!
 

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