All Purpose Trade/Roster Building Thread XII - The UFA frenzy aftermath

[DaveG]

Can't say I'd mind a Kubalik pickup for the Nino role on the Staal line. Should come cheaper than say Kapanen would for the same role.

Also, safe to say Ian Cole will not be re-signed if it wasn't safe to assume that before.

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[Lempo]

Can't say I'd mind a Kubalik pickup for the Nino role on the Staal line. Should come cheaper than say Kapanen would for the same role.

Also, safe to say Ian Cole will not be re-signed if it wasn't safe to assume that before.

Well. Um. His value is kind of deprecated right now...

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Kubalik is very meh. He’ll have enough interest that he won’t take our low 1 year offer

 

[Vagrant]

it seemed odd there was such a silence from what used to be such a good friend, a journalist on an upward trajectory, hadn't mentioned anything on her transparent twitter feed about her in quite some time. including moving out or about the coming nuptials. makes more sense. and that isn't a knock should that person happen to see this, it's actually a thumbs up.

 

[WreckingCrew]

I think the more likely scenario with Bear is option D: he wasn't good enough to get his QO nor to garner enough interest for anyone to trade even a low pick for him when he'll be a UFA in a few days. I'm not opposed to bringing him back, but better be for like $1.2M or something...even then I think I'd rather see Chatfield.

 

[AD Skinner]

I was really impressed with Chatfield. I'm not saying we should pencil him into a top 4 role or anything close to that but I think he could definitely hold down a bottom pair spot next year

 

[tarheelhockey]

I was really impressed with Chatfield. I'm not saying we should pencil him into a top 4 role or anything close to that but I think he could definitely hold down a bottom pair spot next year

Same here. He's one of those solid, cheap bottom-pair guys that gives you the flexibility to make other moves.

 

[Unsustainable]

Same here. He's one of those solid, cheap bottom-pair guys that gives you the flexibility to make other moves.

Reminds me of TVr

 

[Canes]

I was really impressed with Chatfield. I'm not saying we should pencil him into a top 4 role or anything close to that but I think he could definitely hold down a bottom pair spot next year

He's like the d-man version of Lorentz. Can skate with NHLers and has decent enough hockey sense but that's about it. Nothing else in their game really stands out.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Reminds me of TVr

Yep. I would have loved to keep TVR but he outgrew the opportunity he had here. I feel like we could have very easily afforded the number that Washington gave him, but he wasn't getting 17+ minutes a night on the Canes.

 

[ndp]

Crazy that CHI isn’t going to qualify Strome. What’s he get on the open market? Gotta think he would be a viable option for a decent #2 center on quite a few teams.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Crazy that CHI isn’t going to qualify Strome. What’s he get on the open market? Gotta think he would be a viable option for a decent #2 center on quite a few teams.

I think Chicago knows he was propped up by Kane and Debrincat. He wouldnt be worth the arbitration ruling he would get.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I think Chicago knows he was propped up by Kane and Debrincat. He wouldnt be worth the arbitration ruling he would get.

That could be a reason, but here's the thing: Chicago is going to be godawful and won't be short of cap space. There's no reason to not hold onto these players and try to get assets for them at the trade deadline. Not QOing them feels like a club that's going to spend to the cap, but we KNOW that's not going to be the case!

 

[WreckingCrew]

That could be a reason, but here's the thing: Chicago is going to be godawful and won't be short of cap space. There's no reason to not hold onto these players and try to get assets for them at the trade deadline. Not QOing them feels like a club that's going to spend to the cap, but we KNOW that's not going to be the case!

Probably just going to bid everyone up on UFAs...or clearing space to gain assets for retention on trades

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Probably just going to bid everyone up on UFAs...or clearing space to gain assets for retention on trades

Perhaps. They're still not going to get anywhere near the cap even with bad contract trades. This IMO reeks of ownership setting an internal salary ceiling.

 

[Tryamw]

That could be a reason, but here's the thing: Chicago is going to be godawful and won't be short of cap space. There's no reason to not hold onto these players and try to get assets for them at the trade deadline. Not QOing them feels like a club that's going to spend to the cap, but we KNOW that's not going to be the case!

Hey they could be looking at signing 4 more Jones... Or maybe Giroux for 10million..

 

[mikeyfan]

The Canadiens are up against the cap ceiling, 1.9 million remaining, and it's rumored the Canes are looking at Christian Dvorak. Would the Habs trade Dvorak for Ryan Suzuki (and maybe a mid round pick), putting the Brothers together? And as a Canes Fan would you go for such a trade?

 

[DaveG]

if we were trading with Montreal I'd be FAR more interested in Petry. Dvorak does nothing for us compared to what we already have.

 

[bleedgreen]

Petry has to be on our list. Distressed asset, RD with a lot of offense. He's probably got another year in him but I think he's got a couple of more years past that on the contract.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Canadiens may or may not have extra space depending on Price.

I highly doubt we have any interest in Dvorak. He has very little potential and isnt a very good 3C.

 

[mikeyfan]

I know, we will sign Pk and then trade with the Sabres for Malcolm and have the Subban Brothers on the team.

Just injecting a little humor for everyone.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Johnston frames it as Niederreiter actually testing the market rather than leaving town.

Don’t know if that’s insider info or just a generic description of the situation.

 

[CandyCanes]

Dylan Strome from January to the end of the season put up 41 pts in 49 games, tho keep in mind he was getting around 20 minutes a night as the 1C with Kane & Debrincat. I think he could fit nicely as our 2C. I'm still nervous running KK or Necas as our potential 2C.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

We start to movement in the market as guys aren’t QO’d and big free agents are unsigned past the 8 year offer deadline? Teams know which FAs they want to target and how much they need to clear to make it happen.

 

[bleedgreen]

I don’t think more of Strome than I do of Koko. I think more of Necas than either of them. I know he put up some points but he’s pretty meh to watch generally and it felt like he wore out his welcome awhile ago with the Hawks, who could’ve really used him the whole time.

I think we’re gonna find out the value of last seasons move this season. I think Koko will be number two.