This is the last post im giving you because I'm convinced your just trolling me with your 300 posts. BUT I'm hopeful that your an actual sens fan who just cant see the light so here goes:
This doesn't deserve a response.
First point: Yes, thats why Alfie left. We couldnt afford him. Melnyk just came out. JUST LITERALLY CAME OUT and said that if we kept Alfie then we couldnt have gotten Ryan. IF YOU READ WHAT I WROTE I said that we should have signed alfie to his demands and then gotten Ryan therefore, spend money and make a run. If after two years of playoffs and last year going two rounds deep Melnyk doesnt want to pony up the difference between McArthur's contract (3.25) and Alfie (6.0) because he is "losing money" then he's being greedy and I cant accept that as a fan.
Or maybe it's the fact that the team genuinely didn't believe that Alfredsson was worth the money he was asking for. "Blank cheque" was a way to save face most likely and an easy way for the team to create separation from being liable for the departure of Alfredsson.
Second point: Proof is how much we spend. If you do the same thing everyday of your life, thats what you do.
Once again, just words. Saying something doesn't actually make it true. I've already pointed out that the cap is tied to league-wide revenue. Yet you somehow still believe that the Ottawa Senators have been earning and spending the same amount of money since Melnyk became owner. WHERE IS THE ****ING PROOF??????
Third point: Dont talk about stuff you dont know anything about. You mocked my comment about 14.5 million in income by claiming it was the EBIT figure, which it was. But how much cash flow is actually lost from that figure? just interest and taxes, which still leaves something for investing into the team. If your going to dissagree with me just know what your talking about first thats all.
How much cash flow is actually lost from that figure? Go ahead and tell me. Oh right. You don't actually ****ing know do you?
Fourth point: Again your not really knowledgeable about what your talking about. It's not like GAAP allows you to turn anything and everything into a loss. You have certain guidelines that you are allowed to operate in and maximize your tax planning efforts. Despite a corporations best efforts a company may still need to file a profitable financial statement for a variety of reasons: cannot exploit the ITA any further and have already maximized their tax planning efforts, financing requests...etc... Every business in the world will show the least amount of profit as possible, after everything their accountants have done, which is all legal, they still reported a profit of 14.5 million dollars. If he had it his way he would report it as a loss but he can only operate within specified rules and regulations and maximize those opportunities.
Which makes my point all the more valid while rendering yours wishy-washy. You genuinely believe that no matter what the team reports with regard to their finances that Melnyk is taking a massive cut of profits and keeping the money away from his own investment. Like do you understand how stupid that sounds? Let me fill you in. If you have a team that wins a Stanley Cup you make so much more money than a team that wins one round in the playoffs. If his ultimate goal is to make as much money as possible every year off of the team wouldn't it be prudent for him to spend as much as he can so he can win the Stanley Cup and enjoy all the financial pluses that come with it? Oh right, we tried that a lot of years in a row and it didn't work. So now we're trying a new strategy where we build the team through drafting and player development (by the way, probably the best team in the league in both aspects) and trying to win the Cup by developing a home-grown champion. You think the Penguins won the Cup because they spent the most money? Or because they drafted and developed guys like Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, Letang, etc.? You think Chicago won the Cup because they spent the most money or because they drafted and developed guys like Keith, Kane, Toews, Seabrook, Byfuglien, Bolland, Ladd, etc.? Every cup winner has a base of stars who are homegrown, not bought.
Fifth point: I have my opinion you have yours.
Well, it sucked. And it's ridiculous to call someone a Melnyk fan because it doesn't even actually mean anything.
Sixth point: If you want to show me something, show me the cup winners since the last lockout (2004-2005) and how much the spent with relation to the cap. The cap forces teams to make choices on your core and the depth you surround them with. The higher quality of depth a team has the better they perform. Teams that spend to the cap typically have good depth. I would love love love to see the cup winners and how much they spent compared to the cap in that respective year. I bet most would be spending right to the top.
No, actually if I'm going to show you something I'm going to show you all the teams that spent close to the cap. Not just cherry pick the winners and say look how spending money gets you a championship.
I'll start most recently:
2012-13 (top 10 spending teams, in millions)
1. Flyers $72.5
2. Canucks $70.5
3. Wild $70.1
4. Rangers $68.7
5. Blackhawks $67.3
6. Canadiens $66.8
7. Penguins $66.7
8. Sharks $66.3
9. Bruins $64.5
10. Lightning $64
11. Capitals $64
It doesn't take a mathematician to show that for every team that makes the Finals spending near the cap, that there's 5 or more teams who don't.
Look at the Flyers and Lightning. Didn't even make the playoffs. The Flyers spent the most money on their team last year and they finished 10th in the conference. The Blackhawks won the Cup and there were 4 teams who spent more. The Bruins made the Finals and there were 8 teams who spent more. Ottawa was one of the 8 best teams last year by virtue of making it to the conference semi-finals and they had the 25th highest payroll.
2011-12
1. Flyers $66.9
2. Capitals $66.3
3. Canucks $65
4. Sabres $65.3
5. Flames $64.2
6. Penguins $64.2
7. Kings $63.7
8. Bruins $62.1
9. Leafs $63.5
10. Rangers $62
11. Canadiens $62
Wow, what a surprise, the team that spent the most didn't win the Cup. Kings (7th) win the Cup with the Devils (12th) finishing as runners-up.
Buffalo, Calgary, Montreal and Toronto all miss the playoffs. Montreal finishes last in the conference. Ottawa (26th) makes the playoffs and goes to 7 games with the number 1 seed in the conference. Traditional powerhouses like Chicago and Detroit aren't even in the top half of spending.
2010-11
1. Devils $63.9
2. Canucks $62.9
3. Flames $62.8
4. Penguins $61.7
5. Canadiens $61.2
6. Capitals $60.3
7. Bruins $60.2
8. Sharks $59.3
9. Blackhawks $55.2
10. Red Wings $59.5
11. Flyers $59.6
Devils finish bottom 10 in the NHL. Canucks (2) and Bruins (7) make it to the Finals with the Bruins winning. Flames miss the playoffs. Ottawa (14) one of the five worst teams in the NHL that year. Lightning (23) make ECF.
2009-10
1. Flyers $60.4
2. Canucks $59
3. Wings $58.8
4. Sharks $57
5. Penguins $56.7
6. Senators $56.4
7. Rangers $56.4
8. Canadiens $56.4
9. Flames $56.4
10. Oilers $57.7
11. Leafs $56.9
Blackhawks (13) beat Flyers (1) in the Finals. Rangers, Flames, Oilers, Leafs all miss the playoffs. Edmonton, one of the worst teams in NHL history. Toronto last in the EC. Senators out in the first round.
Do I really need to keep going? As it turns out, you were wrong. Much as I had predicted. The fact is, spending at or near the cap has mixed results. There's no guarantee that spending correlates with winning. There isn't even a guarantee that spending means your team will make the playoffs. The best part is, I didn't even do this upcoming year. I posted no less than 10 teams earlier in this thread spending anywhere from a little to a lot more than the Sens this coming year and I would take the Sens roster over every single one of them. So what does that mean?
I have stated all along that I dont like Melnyk because of his recent greedy choices, I've never hid it. I just dont understand how someone can stick up for him for taking money out of the team and not letting us have a competetive chance at winning? That is a selfish decision by him and as fans its unacceptable. The only person who should be happy about this is Melnyk
Well, you're wrong. As you can clearly see from what's written above.