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What do you guys think here? AHL after 9 games are what is going to happen?

I'm no CBJ fan but I've followed Wennberg since his junior days. I'm a but surprised he has played such a big role the first games, no sheltered minutes at all.
 

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What do you guys think here? AHL after 9 games are what is going to happen?

I'm no CBJ fan but I've followed Wennberg since his junior days. I'm a but surprised he has played such a big role the first games, no sheltered minutes at all.
does the 9 game rule still apply to Wennberg? he's already 20 so maybe he burns a year of his ELC either way?

anywho, I think most would say he should be the first of our forwards to go down to the AHL when the time comes
 

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No the 9 game thing does not apply to Wennberg. He is in NA to stay.

The fact he keeps getting all these minutes consistently shows Richards and the gang trusts him. It makes no sense to take someone out of the lineup suddenly if he is playing that much if he is healthy. He is on the team to stay IMO.
 

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No the 9 game thing does not apply to Wennberg. He is in NA to stay.

The fact he keeps getting all these minutes consistently shows Richards and the gang trusts him. It makes no sense to take someone out of the lineup suddenly if he is playing that much if he is healthy. He is on the team to stay IMO.

I would tend to agree, he was even playing on the PK, last night. Seems unlikely they would send down someone they trust with that kind of duty.
 

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I just don't see him doing anything that helps the Jackets right now. His offensive potential, at least right now, is minimal. He really seems like someone who would benefit from AHL experience to help improve his offensive game. I think he is really hurting our second line.
 

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Send him down and let him develop. The NHL isnt a development league

I just don't see him doing anything that helps the Jackets right now. His offensive potential, at least right now, is minimal. He really seems like someone who would benefit from AHL experience to help improve his offensive game. I think he is really hurting our second line.
I'd say it worked pretty well for Johansen. With that being said I fully expect his TOI to go down when Dubi and Jenner come back
 
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I just don't see him doing anything that helps the Jackets right now. His offensive potential, at least right now, is minimal. He really seems like someone who would benefit from AHL experience to help improve his offensive game. I think he is really hurting our second line.

I guess I see it differently. Hartnel imo is the drag on that line. Wennberg put 6 shots on goal last night, led the team. The AHL might ultimately be a better a choice for him this season, but I like him up here until we get some top 6 guys healthy.

Wennberg-Anisimov-Jenner looks a lot better to me than Hartnel in the mix.
 

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Wennberg is not Johansen

Obviously not, but in his rookie season he is being entrusted with more ice time, and more defensive responsibilities then Johansen was in his rookie season. While also acclamating to a smaller rink and playing a different position then he is use to playing. Before last season damn near everyone on these boards was ready to trade him away for not putting up any points. Wennberg is a big, responsible, two-way center who is highly intelligent and capable of making the right play at the right time. It's not entirely unreasonable to think he can develop into a similar player as Johansen. Only time will tell as its still early in the season and A LOT can happen within the next 3 seasons. And I think its safe to say that Wennberg thinks the game a lot better then Johansen did at this stage in the respective careers. And its not like his linemates are any better than Johansens were. Hartnell=Umberger and Anisimov just as good if not a little worse then Foligno). Granted Johansen was playing center the entire time(because we had no other options) But Wennberg is still facing top line opposition.

Johansen wasnt exactly known for his IQ, but him playing at the NHL level, if only for 10 minutes a game for two seasons has definitely helped him develop into a better, more skilled player. Im not disagreeing that time in the AHL wouldnt do him any good, as it would. But hes averaging 17 minutes/game right now and hes handling himself pretty well IMO. The scoring will/should come in time, we just dont know. Lines will get stirred when Jenner and Dubinksy get back into the lineup and I wouldnt be suprised to see him remain in the top 6 tbh. With a little more acclimation and confindence in his game he could really flourish. His TOI will likely go down when we are fully healthy, but it seems Richards has all the faith in the world in Wennberg right now.
 

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He's been serviceable. I havent seen anything thats blown me away by him, so i feel the AHL is a better place for him to get top minutes and develop more as a player when Duby returns
 

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Wennberg seemed a bit slow to react at times last night. He also made some passes which seemed to indicate that he wasn't in sync with the speed of the game. A big shocker after 3 whole games. LOL. Still, he had 6 shots on goal. Nothing to sneeze at there.

He'll have another 10 or so games before Dubinski and Jenner are back. Unless he puts up some pretty heady stats, the numbers game on the roster will probably dictate that he goes to the AHL. Nothing wrong with that. Something like 85-90% of all NHLers have played in the AHL at some point in their careers. It's a great developmental league.

As has been noted by others, playing top 6 minutes and getting PP time in the AHL would do nothing but help his development. He's a mid 1st round pick, so there's no shame in being sent to the AHL.

I'm going to guess that unless he puts up numbers which can't be ignored, Wennberg will be sent to the AHL when the veterans are healthy again.
 

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I guess I see it differently. Hartnel imo is the drag on that line. Wennberg put 6 shots on goal last night, led the team. The AHL might ultimately be a better a choice for him this season, but I like him up here until we get some top 6 guys healthy.

Wennberg-Anisimov-Jenner looks a lot better to me than Hartnel in the mix.

Were you not watching Hartnell's feeds? Anisimov doesn't score if not for those.
 

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Wennberg seemed a bit slow to react at times last night. He also made some passes which seemed to indicate that he wasn't in sync with the speed of the game. A big shocker after 3 whole games. LOL. Still, he had 6 shots on goal. Nothing to sneeze at there.

He'll have another 10 or so games before Dubinski and Jenner are back. Unless he puts up some pretty heady stats, the numbers game on the roster will probably dictate that he goes to the AHL. Nothing wrong with that. Something like 85-90% of all NHLers have played in the AHL at some point in their careers. It's a great developmental league.

As has been noted by others, playing top 6 minutes and getting PP time in the AHL would do nothing but help his development. He's a mid 1st round pick, so there's no shame in being sent to the AHL.

I'm going to guess that unless he puts up numbers which can't be ignored, Wennberg will be sent to the AHL when the veterans are healthy again.

Numbers aren't everything
 

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If you watch the 2nd goal Dallas scored last night, Wennberg started to skate to the neutral zone before the puck was cleared. He could have stopped that shot from ever happening IMO.

I realize that's just one play, but his game is not on the level of a team with a goal of winning a Stanley Cup, which I do believe this team has realistic chance of obtaining with a healthy Murray, Jenner, an Dubinski. (like most I can't expect anything at this point from Horton)

I'm just a big fan, I don't claim to be any time of expert on NHL talent, but I would say also when Dubi and Jenner are back, one more year in the AHL for Wennberg. Just my humble opinion.

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If you watch the 2nd goal Dallas scored last night, Wennberg started to skate to the neutral zone before the puck was cleared. He could have stopped that shot from ever happening IMO.

I realize that's just one play, but his game is not on the level of a team with a goal of winning a Stanley Cup, which I do believe this team has realistic chance of obtaining with a healthy Murray, Jenner, an Dubinski. (like most I can't expect anything at this point from Horton)

I'm just a big fan, I don't claim to be any time of expert on NHL talent, but I would say also when Dubi and Jenner are back, one more year in the AHL for Wennberg. Just my humble opinion.

#5thline, #LetsGoBlueJackets, # F you Sidney Crybaby

That was a broken play. There were two Jackets on Benn whose job it was to take care of him- I think Hartnell and Anisimov. They dropped the ball. It wasn't Wennberg's job.

I think Wennberg should go to the AHL, but for his long-term development, not because he is hurting the team. He isn't really helping or hurting us much right now.
 

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If you watch the 2nd goal Dallas scored last night, Wennberg started to skate to the neutral zone before the puck was cleared. He could have stopped that shot from ever happening IMO.

I realize that's just one play, but his game is not on the level of a team with a goal of winning a Stanley Cup, which I do believe this team has realistic chance of obtaining with a healthy Murray, Jenner, an Dubinski. (like most I can't expect anything at this point from Horton)

I'm just a big fan, I don't claim to be any time of expert on NHL talent, but I would say also when Dubi and Jenner are back, one more year in the AHL for Wennberg. Just my humble opinion.

#5thline, #LetsGoBlueJackets, # F you Sidney Crybaby

On the play you mentioned, while I agree that he might have been able to effect Benn's shot had he not broken out, it's also true that both Anisimov and Hartnell were in close defensive contact with the puckcarrier and, at the time Wennberg made his break, it actually looked like one of them had gained control of the puck. Had that happened, Wennberg would have gone in on Lehtonen all alone. Benn's work on that play was extraordinary and typified how determined the Stars played.

I don't know who will go when players begin to get healthy, nor do I believe that Wennberg will be damaged in any way by spending time in the AHL. It will certainly become clearer as the season moves on.
 

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That was a broken play. There were two Jackets on Benn whose job it was to take care of him- I think Hartnell and Anisimov. They dropped the ball. It wasn't Wennberg's job.

I think Wennberg should go to the AHL, but for his long-term development, not because he is hurting the team. He isn't really helping or hurting us much right now.

We saw it the same way, mm, but you type much faster!
 

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I haven't seen much to indicate why coach Richards is attempting to use Calvert, Letestu, and Wennberg so much for their defensive prowess and on the PK.

I mean, they're fast and they can chase down pucks, but they don't strike me as defensive specialists.
 

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I guess I see it differently. Hartnel imo is the drag on that line.

I thought it was Anisimov...

Hartnell and Wennberg tend to be among those few who know how to play short-passing possession game so it's nice to see those two playing at least together.

Something like 85-90% of all NHLers have played in the AHL at some point in their careers. It's a great developmental league.

Only just because most prospects go down AHL path does it make it great for development?

It's a heavy travelling (all of that is out of practice time) bus league where the quality of opposition is fairly young, inexperienced or even not that special. Great for prospects without any prior professional ice hockey experience, language (or other cultural) skills or good grasp of the Northern American game and systems. Or for those who need to boost to their confidence if they ain't finding success at higher level.

If you can be comfortable on the ice and add to your team's play... to the NHL. No better experience around.

Having played at NHL third line level for example doesn't make you a golden god. Or would Letestu and Calvert be welcomed as those if they sailed across the Atlantic into a brave new hockey world...
 

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I need to remember this response! It can be used to refute any stat on these boards. Brilliant! :laugh:

What I meant was that you don't need to have big numbers on the scoresheet to have a solid season. The year before Johansens breakout season he didn't put up big numbers or play flashy at all, but that was the season he started to make a name for himself around the league. Although most NHL fans had no clue, coaches and players had to start planning around him. That was the season Thorton for example was getting pulled off the ice every time Johansen was getting on because he shut him down.

All I'm saying is with a little more NHL experience for Wennberg his confidence in his game should rise, and so too should his point totals.
 

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1 point in 4 games and a -5.

I think the hype train left the station a little early. I really want this kid to get time in Springfield when Jenner and/or Dubi come back.
 
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