Proposal: A 1st and a 2nd for Matthew Knies and a 3rd in order to flip picks for help on D and PK.

[Ianturnedbull]

HFBOARDSTERS are lining up to click their favorite emoji. I fail to see what is so funny here. You would rather humiliate someone then discuss a hockey trade?

People are only seeing Knies' stat line and not his overall trajectory. No one would laugh at this last season when he stepped on the ice right into a playoff series. Right now he's getting a feel for the marathon of a regular season Pro team. Not the sprint of the short college season.

Last year you had Knies all figured out. This year you have Knies figured out because he's not scoring at a point per game pace. Luckily GMs and pro scouts don't **** and chuck prospects/young players like some of the cynical people in Hockey forums.

 

[Mr Kot]

Why not just trade Knies for help directly?

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Knies isn't being trading. His ELC is way too beneficial for the Leafs.

This would make more sense if you said Bertuzzi, he's way more likely to be traded -- but still likely isn't considering Toronto isn't selling off players.

As beneficial as a defenseman? This trade is not done in a vacuum.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Knies isn’t worth a 1st + 2nd. Ah I now see Toronto gives up a 3rd. Still not worth it to give up a 1st for a player of Knies’ caliber.

well, depending on position of those picks, maybe ur right but maybe ur wrong.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Why not just trade Knies for help directly?

The advice is sound, but I would have twice as many jeers for naming specific players.

 

[miscs75]

Interesting idea for Arizona to get some hometown talent on the roster. First Knies and then they sign Matthews as a UFA.

 

[mydnyte]

Can this be the outside the box idea that Treliving is looking for in order to bolster TOR for a playoff drive?

the only outside the box version of trading Knies would be for a similar aged and upside defender.
i.e. the Drysdale trade

 

[Judas Tavares]

Came in here for the Knies slander and the Ben Jones hype.

Wasn't disappoint.

 

[mydnyte]

Why are people comparing Knies to Slaf? Night and day. Next season we can compare Slaf’s production to Knies production this season. Slaf will destroy him.

why are you comparing a #1 Overall pick with a 2nd rounder?

 

[Robtom18]

HFBOARDSTERS are lining up to click their favorite emoji. I fail to see what is so funny here. You would rather humiliate someone then discuss a hockey trade?

People are only seeing Knies' stat line and not his overall trajectory. No one would laugh at this last season when he stepped on the ice right into a playoff series. Right now he's getting a feel for the marathon of a regular season Pro team. Not the sprint of the short college season.

Last year you had Knies all figured out. This year you have Knies figured out because he's not scoring at a point per game pace. Luckily GMs and pro scouts don't **** and chuck prospects/young players like some of the cynical people in Hockey forums.

What would be a fair ask from st louis for knies. He was jimmy snuggs line mate

 

[HolyGhost]

Can this be the outside the box idea that Treliving is looking for in order to bolster TOR for a playoff drive?

when did knies value get so high

 

[Khelandros]

Were not trading Knies ffs.

Ah yes, Matthew Knies, the new Jeremy Bracco.

Who is playing in the NHL, checks notes, ........KHL.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

when did knies value get so high

I thought it was the opposite. Some people here are clambering to post negative things about him.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Ah yes, Matthew Knies, the new Jeremy Bracco.

Who is playing in the NHL, checks notes, ........KHL.

You think Knies is a comparable to Bracco?

LMAO.

 

[Golden_Jet]

OP overvaluing Knies, considering his most common line mates this year have been Matthew’s, Nylander and Matthew’s, Marner according to money puck.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Ah yes, Matthew Knies, the new Jeremy Bracco.

Who is playing in the NHL, checks notes, ........KHL.

Hahahaha wow, you really just let people see your lack of hockey knowledge like this eh?

 

[Rpenny]

Not all but a few leaf fans are over valuing Knievs. He falls into the "he has more value to the team that has him than what they could get for him" catagory

 

[Pukboy5kroner]

You think Knies is a comparable to Bracco?

LMAO.

I believe the poster was referring to the hype fans had for Bracco.

Regarding the trade, Toronto could flip Knies for a solid d-man, but would have to add something, imo, as substantial as Knies. Personally, I'd just keep him as he's developing into a versatile winger.

 

[CatchyTune]

Would prefer not to move Knies and if we did it would be for a premium asset

 

[Strangle]

Marner, 2nd for Tanev, Hanifin and Kadri

well my bad but still, Knies was hyped about a lot by Leafs fans during and after the play-offs last year, haven't done much this season though, not much production and what ive read
about him from the Leafs boards, his game hasn't been that great either (how he has played).
some wants him sent to the AHL

He’s going to keep improving, until the Leafs eventually can’t sign him. Like Hyman

 

[tom leafers]

We arent this year is pray for a miracle playoff run

Its big 4 or bust. Very likely bust

We need cowan + minten to be contributers right away next year

Tavares next year final year then we can fix up the teams depth issues ideally

Sucks but thats life as a leaf fan for now

shitty thing is the raises to matthews and nylander are gonna cost us an extra $6.1m per year, with Tavares coming off the books after next year, that basically only gives us $5m. and that's before re-signing Marner and even potentially Tavares to a smaller deal. were just gonna keep going around in circles!

 

[HabsQC]

Feel like a Habs fan should know all about underachieving young players. They still have value

Yes and we also know abput going to cup finals, you should listen to us

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Yes and we also know abput going to cup finals, you should listen to us

We have already dealt with him before, we dont need your experience there.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

OP overvaluing Knies, considering his most common line mates this year have been Matthew’s, Nylander and Matthew’s, Marner according to money puck.

*Something or someone costs what a buyer is willing to give them. In this case do any teams need young talent to play in their top 6? So many teams do. So many teams don't even find that in the draft.

*another great example is the Apple Watch lol.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Jones could be on a fourth line in the NHL. He has been for stretches. Same with Minten.

Well, stretch of 2 games in which he got shellacked but yeah