Pretty much lol
I don't count on Zaitsev coming over either and would be shocked if he did as well.
Prospect Info: #70 Danil Misyul D
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Pretty much lol
I don't count on Zaitsev coming over either and would be shocked if he did as well.
It is called "KHL contract expiry date" aka the 1st of May.
Draft+4 years is pretty usual waiting time, not sure why it got you that desperate.
NJ has Hughes, Siegenthaler, Bahl, Vilen down the left side. I’m surprised we signed Misyul rather than trade him.
I liked him when we drafted him, I’m happy we signed him.
Lou is God
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Might be easier to trade him if he has a contract and playing here and not in the KHL.
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Jason MacIsaac
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Okhotiuk being moved opens up some room for Misyul. The rich get richer in depth.
You can never have too many assets. Misyul is clearly a good player, so let's get him over here and see what we have. Worst case, he can be packaged in a trade to upgrade third line. Doesn't hurt to make Utica better either.
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I mean I have no issue whatsoever but that’s probably more a long the lines of best case. Not sure he would be worth anyone trading for right now. Likely best case is he does well enough to have a shot at being an NHL player and/or be worth a team trading some depth for. Worst case he isn’t that good in the AHL and goes back to the KHL.
Exactly! No downside to this, and even if he's good in the AHL and isn't worth trading, improving Utica is a good thing - I'd rather our prospects develop in a winning environment.
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His 1st AHL goal! Thought I’d share.
Guadana
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4 points in 8 games. And +5 best in the team. Yes, I know, +/- isn't the most representive stat. But it is helpful. He was net positive in khl too, not as productive, but nothing surprising here, its ahl. May be we will see him in the NHL.
Nice goal after a good OZ shift from Misyul-Nemec
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I feel like we were expecting him to play well in the AHL. And I'm glad to see he's exceeding those expectations with some offensive contributions on top of his solid defense.
Some good defenders in Utica - Nemec, Misyul, Vilen, Hatakka. And we have more to come in Europe and juniors/college. Insane.
Some good defenders in Utica - Nemec, Misyul, Vilen, Hatakka. And we have more to come in Europe and juniors/college. Insane.
Guadana
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Casey isn't bad in NCAA too.
I don't see any real problem with defense as a system, I think Devils have enough with Jack, Nico, Jesper, Timo, Dawson, Sasha Holtzev, and may be Lenny and Gritsyuk. The real issue is goalie now, and 3C candidate who can play center role in top 6 if we want. But with goalies you never know until they are playing in NHL on the starter level. So next draft Devils should draft 4 centers and 2 goalies.
From yesterday game Misyul feeling well in AHL, its not surprise, but its still a good thing. May be call up, may be part of the trade, he us 23yo only with respectable numbers in ahl now and big experience in KHL. I believe Devils can cement some holes in the roster for one two years with him as a trade part. Or may be they will finally give him some opportunity, he can play PK, he is mobile and physical and it looks like his game with the puck at least better than what it was year or two ago. Miller could be a good partner at least for try.
Tactics to draft mobile big defensive defensemen us good. When they are having some puck skills(it was a main issue with Daniil), it works well.
BTW Okhotyuk is playing 19-20 min per game in sj. His numbers are not good, but he isn't the worst and full team is working disaster. 19+ min for young defenseman in SJ is a tough job. Hope his career will go one. I like him as a player and he and his brother are good people.
Like to see Misyul get a shot in Jersey if possible before trading him....He plays a good defensive game
I thought he looked really good on Friday and I had a good view (I’m actually in the video of his first AHL goal).
I think he’s got real potential as a 3rd pairing defense focused guy
I think he’s got real potential as a 3rd pairing defense focused guy
SteveCangialosi123
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There’s probably a decent chance we’ll get an NHLer out of one of this guy, Vilen, or Hatakka if he can stay healthy.
Any chance Misyul will cheap shot the best players on the other team? Hitting is nice but it’s the cheap shots that put guys on LTIR rhat make a difference in thr NHL. Worst case scenario he’s suspended for two games.
RNCDevil
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@My3Sons reading your posts, I think we're feeling similarly. This Devils team may have some electric players but if the gameplan is out - just beat the living day lights out several players - how does a team counter it?
It did seem like the Devils were initiating more in the latter part of the Caps game. I LOVED seeing Smith annhilate that dirtbag Oshie. Do you just give more of license to Bahl, Smith, and Bastian to take some runs? You cannot appeal to referees. That much is clear.
Even if you have a spate of lopsides losses, penalty plagued games, even some 1-2 game suspension, do you have to just stand up and run some players? I don't like it, but if it's them or us and the league refuses to protect players, I think you have to, no?
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That's my thinking. The league is so selective in its rules enforcement and its game management that by and large they will only call two or three penalties per side per game. if a play is borderline they may penalize it but the perpetrator gets a fine or a short suspension and the victim of an illegal hit may miss a substantial amount of time. There's very little downside to cheap shotting the best players on the other team. There is no comeuppance for the perpetrators and nobody really seems to care. Florida desperately tried to rally after Nico's hit on Barkov's leg last year and ultimately it didn't make any difference to anything. Tkachuk dragged Nico on the ice a bit but nobody cared and it didn't impact the outcome of anything and Nico never got beaten up over it. I have no doubt in that instance it was a genuine accident. But there are numerous instances where guys just push it too far and it's dangerous. Trouba's elbow, Wilson's head hunting, Marchand's stick work. These guys are never called to account and any league discipline is so minor in comparison to how dangerous what they have done that I'm surprised other teams don't go the same route. I don't advocate anyone being injured but I do advocate calling out the NHL for its BS on player safety and reffing.
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I mean Nemec is ready they're just not playing him. I also don't think the hole is a real issue personnel wise. Sure Smith sucks like a ton but the 6D is not making or breaking the team and he's not going to see the ice when games really matter.
Guadana
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I was with you on the same thinking line, but now I changed my thoughts a little. Smith creating a lot on the net, I mean GA, SA, HDSA etc. His GA/60 and xGf are bad and he doesnt do any help, everybody are better without him, and may be by his own he is making ~1GA per game, and he is taking a lot of penalties too. Again without any positive compensation he is trully net negative and he is making it against not the strongest opposition often.
So for a team without good goaltending and two first line centers(with different roles) he is making that huge damage that what outweighs the scales. Of course he isn’t the only issue, but I’m starting to think that it is a huge issue, that could bring us much more stable results and game, if Devils will replace him for some average. Of course I think the same about goaltending.
He's obviously really bad at 5v5 and it is a hole but I just don't really think a 6D is a HUGE issue. As annoying as his penalties are he also draws a lot of calls. His penalty differential is even. He also has by far the best PK numbers on the team and hasn't given up a goal on the PK. Now part of that is likely due to him facing easier units but he's still playing 2 minutes on the PK a game and the numbers are elite elite. Min 25 PK minutes he has the 3rd best xGA/60 out of 121 guys and he is only one of 7 guys who hasn't been scored on
He sucks for sure and I've been saying I don't even really think he's NHL caliber anymore but I also don't think like if he was swapped out for some average 6D that it'd make a monumental difference. It'd be better for sure and I'm patiently awaiting the day Miller takes his spot but in the grand scheme of things but I don't think it's a transformative difference.
There is the question of who replaces him on the PK when he's gone. Now I do think if Miller is just treading water at 5v5 as an adequate 6D that's probably a bigger positive impact than the negative impact you'd lose from the PK. It just isn't going to be the massive change people might think it is. If we were going to replace him with a guy that could replace his PK value and be a huge 5v5 positive then I'd feel much more confident that it would actually be a pretty transformative change. I don't think going 11/7 and using Smith primarily as a PK specialist would be a bad idea (just please don't let it be at the expense of Holtz)
Now Nemec I think is a huge wildcard here. He has the ability to be a lot better than just an adequate 6D at 5v5. If he can come in close to the level some of the other highly touted D have immediately hitting the ground running as a legit top 4 caliber D then that's a huge boost at 5v5. That's a HUGE swing from Smith and even could be a pretty big swing from Miller. I'm not going to expect him to be nearly the PKer Smith is but if he can be a meh PKer and the rest of the PK can figure out their shit and get back to last years level that can help alleviate the Smith loss and 5v5 upgrade would be a big boon
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Guadana
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He is 1GA per game bad. I want to see Miller, I want to see Nemec over him. If we need in him in PK - use him as 12th forward. But we should stop using him as 5vs5 defenseman. At least we should try to watch what we have in other players.
