Proposal: 3 way, NSH Karlsson TOR Subban OTT Futures

[Boud]

Lmao if there's anything Sens fans know it's that you should never talk about Karlsson anywhere near a Leafs fan if you don't want to hear stupid shit.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

That's Chiarelli logic. Searching for that elusive balance by killing your strength is just not a good idea.

Chiarelli logic would be trading Marner for a bunch of scraps.

Chiarelli usually never receives the best player in a trade.

I'd say of Marner, Nylander, and Subban that latter is definitively the best player now and probably the next few seasons.

Not saying you should do the trade, but Subban is hardly a bad option if you were to move someone.

Just an outside opinion. I hope the Leafs don't do that to be honest.

 

[Sniper99]

Subban > Karlsson > Marner

no on so many levels. I love Subban and all but hes not greater than Karlsson. Sorry.

 

[Sniper99]

Sorry that you hate facts.

LOL what facts. You havent provided any facts whatsoever.

 

[JetsHomer]

LOL what facts. You havent provided any facts whatsoever.

Sure I have the fact is in terms of value:
Subban > Karlsson > Marner

Hope that helps

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

LOL what facts. You havent provided any facts whatsoever.

he provided his opinion and some arrows for you. What more is he supposed to do?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Sure I have the fact is in terms of value:
Subban > Karlsson > Marner

Hope that helps

that's the same opinion but with an introduction this time. still no facts

 

[Sniper99]

Sure I have the fact is in terms of value:
Subban > Karlsson > Marner

Hope that helps

> symbols dont mean jack ****. Try providing some actual FACTS, that involve numbers that can back up your "claim" help. Otherwise you aint got ****

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

In terms of on ice impact as of right now, sure. But when it comes to value to the teams, specifically Toronto, I wouldn’t move Marner for either of those two.

That's hilarious.

Subban/Karlsson>Marner isn't something that you even need to prove with facts because anybody who isn't extremely biased and knows anything about these players will acknowledge it.

> symbols dont mean jack ****. Try providing some actual FACTS, that involve numbers that can back up your "claim" help. Otherwise you aint got ****

2011 was the last year that neither Subban nor Karlsson was a finalist for the Norris Trophy.

 

[BleedBlue14]

A. Why does Nashville trade Subban with 4 years left for Karlsson...a purely iffensive D with one year left before making more than Subban?

B. No thank you to moving Marner.

In my opinion, Karllson is better defensively than Subban. Karlsson is a better puck mover and a bit more creative where Subban has a cannon of a shot which is great for Nashvilles PP. I don't necessarily think Nashville is a fit for Karlsson but that's just me

 

[JetsHomer]

> symbols dont mean jack ****. Try providing some actual FACTS, that involve numbers that can back up your "claim" help. Otherwise you aint got ****

Players that are top 10 Dmen in the world are better than wingers that aren’t even the best forwards on their team

 

[A1LeafNation]

Counter: Brown Carrick Gardiner for Ellis

 

[LoovTrain]

Us stupid Leaf fans will stupidly keep our little 20 year old winger and enjoy watching him Mitchslap the league while the other two players in this deal mosey on off into sunset over the next 5 years.

 

[Hogie Hogilthorpe]

If subban becomes a leaf I quit hockey forever

 

[Notsince67]

Players that are top 10 Dmen in the world are better than wingers that aren’t even the best forwards on their team

Meh...I don't agree

 

[Fogelhund]

I can see the logic for Toronto and Ottawa, but don't see why Nashville would go for this

It only makes sense, if you subscribe to the viewpoint that Subban is a locker room problem, and removing him helps the team. None of us know the truth, but there is no hockey reason to move him for sure. Having said that, if Nashville is moving on from him, I'd be a very wary buyer.

 

[Brobust]

Chiarelli logic would be trading Marner for a bunch of scraps.

Chiarelli usually never receives the best player in a trade.

I'd say of Marner, Nylander, and Subban that latter is definitively the best player now and probably the next few seasons.

Not saying you should do the trade, but Subban is hardly a bad option if you were to move someone.

Just an outside opinion. I hope the Leafs don't do that to be honest.

And you'll be ok with trading Pastrnak for a 30 year old star? I'm sure you will be.

 

[Raymoondo]

That's hilarious.

Subban/Karlsson>Marner isn't something that you even need to prove with facts because anybody who isn't extremely biased and knows anything about these players will acknowledge it.



2011 was the last year that neither Subban nor Karlsson was a finalist for the Norris Trophy.

Wasn't the thing he was arguing was that Karlsson > Subban lol

 

[Brobust]

Meh...I don't agree

Karlsson, Phaneuf and Ceci. Matthews and Marner just feast whenever any of those guys are on the ice.

 

[Walt22]

Meh...I don't agree

I find it funny you are trying to show value of a player by points when the senators beat the leafs 4 times last year. Wins are what matter, so that clearly makes the send a better team.

 

[Notsince67]

I find it funny you are trying to show value of a player by points when the senators beat the leafs 4 times last year. Wins are what matter, so that clearly makes the send a better team.

Karlsson was going to cry

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Players that are top 10 Dmen in the world are better than wingers that aren’t even the best forwards on their team

so Marner is somehow less good because the Leafs happen to have an even better elite forward in Matthews on the team? Guess that shows Malkin can't be that good as he isn't even the best center on his team. Subban isn't even the best defenseman on his team, so that must really hurt him. Also the point of trades is to go by value, not who is currently better.

 

[LOUISVILLE ICE CARDS]

It only makes sense, if you subscribe to the viewpoint that Subban is a locker room problem, and removing him helps the team. None of us know the truth, but there is no hockey reason to move him for sure. Having said that, if Nashville is moving on from him, I'd be a very wary buyer.

The thing is subban is not a locker room problem. The team coach and players have all shot this down i don’t know why we have to keep going back and forward with this. Laviolette shut it down, the players went to the GM and said that they want to keep the core together, and the team voted him for the King Clancy trophy. This whole locker room cancer with the Pred is complete BS. Nashville is not trading Subban

 

[93gilmour93]

I find it funny you are trying to show value of a player by points when the senators beat the leafs 4 times last year. Wins are what matter, so that clearly makes the send a better team.

Sens and leafs actually split the season series 2-2

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I find it funny you are trying to show value of a player by points when the senators beat the leafs 4 times last year. Wins are what matter, so that clearly makes the send a better team.

this is gold. Other than the outright lie about the season series
Toronto: 49 wins (T6)
Ottawa: 28 wins (30)

guess we know who is the better team